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Author Topic: Hey you, you suck! (AKA: Outing bad film handlers) Part 2 John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-21-2009 07:43 PM                     Tom, it sounds like you should take this up with DFS and/or Sony; I'm sure they want to hear about chronic issues of damage like this. But I'm confused...you witnessed this scratching at your theatre at the Brattleboro theatre? If the latter, what were you doing there if the presentation was so awful? --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Donald Brown Expert Film Handler Posts: 131 From: Lincoln, DE Registered: Sep 2009 posted 11-22-2009 05:08 PM                     This subject brought back a very amusing memory: Many years ago I had the opportunity to work at a large multi-screen venue in South Florida. The site was notorious for accidents with prints, but this one was exceptional. A maintenance worker was assigned to break down "Jurassic Park" at the end of its extended run in December.(Back then the life span of a release was much longer than it is today)! In any event, I received a call by two-way radio to come down to a booth on the lower end of the property. When I arrived, the sight exceeded even my wildest expectations! "Jurassic Park" was ruined, draped over the platter and spread out on the floor! There was only one solution! A big rubbish bag was secured and "Jurassic Park" was stuffed inside! Under cover of darkness, the remains were quickly and quietly disposed of in the dumpster! The film cans were left out for pick-up and not a single question was ever raised about the where abouts of the print inside! As an independent exhibitor and reel to reel operator, there was no way I was going to subject anyone else to the merciless treatment of this print! There are other recollections from this employment, such as when "The Hunt For Red October" fell down a ladder, landed in a heap, was gathered up in a trash bag, broke through the bag, and was left as my charge in the middle of the floor to reassemble! As time and experience in this industry have accumulated with each passing year, it is clear in retrospect that nothing to date has exceded the absurdity of the fate that befell "Jurassic ParK"!  |  IP: Logged Sean McKinnon Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1712 From: Peabody Massachusetts Registered: Sep 2000 posted 11-23-2009 08:22 PM                        That's too bad if the Kipling is the BCG in Vermont I am thinking of they actually have some decent equipment as far as BCG goes... It is the only BCG I have ever seen that has SR*D  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-04-2009 10:44 AM                        A big Showplace 14 in New Lenox IL for their swell job of tearing down Boondox Saints 2. This lovely piece of snapped film was taped together in the middle of the first reel. Glad you didn't waste a minute out of your life to fix it, and splice it together. THANK YOU!  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 12-04-2009 02:00 PM                     A side-note which I haven't seen mentioned yet... Technicolor is now experimenting with a Fox-box like delivery box. We got the first one last night, for Transylmania, along with a note stating they will start replacing worn out orange cans with these orange boxes. To be fair, at least instead of one crappy handle sticking out of the top, there are two grips on the side of the box for better carrying, and it has two locking tabs instead of one. I'll try to remember to take my camera in to work today and take a picture of the thing.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-04-2009 03:04 PM                     ...I was wondering when TECH would grab onto the "FoxBox" concept with just one container.. ..but at least, it would be easier with two handles instead of the hand destroying single one.. True, be interesting on what these wood look like...  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-04-2009 05:23 PM                     *deleted* Somehow double posted.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-04-2009 05:23 PM                     Are the handles big enough to fit all 4 fingers through comfortably? That's the biggest thing I dislike about the Fox Box.  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-04-2009 05:35 PM                        quote: Donald Brown Many years ago I had the opportunity to work at a large multi-screen venue in South Florida That wouldn't have been a 13 screen Drive -In would it have?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-04-2009 11:22 PM                     This is the new beast. I can't say I fully approve of this. Yes the double handle is better than the Deluxe-break-your-back box, but it still sucks. Its all about the PLASTIC BLUE CANS people!!!  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-05-2009 12:34 AM                     aaaaaaaaaaaargh. I am filled with hate. Anything where a single person can't carry a movie any distance without a cart is a big lose. Why is this tough for DFS & TES to understand? I know, I know, it's not about ease of carriage. It's about more convenient shelf storage, and not misplacing part of the shipment while in transit. Or to be more blunt, costs to the exchange and studio versus convenience (cost) to the exhibitor. (Maybe it's an anti-piracy measure. Fewer thieves will steal movies for their backyard telecine if they need to bring a cart instead of just picking them up hand-in-hand.) --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-05-2009 12:35 AM                     Now, that's gonna raise a bit of havoc carrying that thing upstairs with the weight, being close to 80lbs, in front of you... ..AND....you're gonna have to carry that thing almost chest high to keep the legs from whacking into it. They'd better print instructions on how to lift that thing straight up instead of bending over to lift. Gonna be a bunch of sore backs lugging that thing up the stairs... They should have done the Goldberg, blue plastic can trick - that way one can even the weight between the body, carry the load low and keep a straight back.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-05-2009 01:17 AM                     It would be fine if they used 4 reel versions of the Deluxe-suck-o-matic boxes. I tried to get them to design a box that was "gangable" in some manner so it could be shipped as one piece, but the manufacturer couldn't make it work. At the end of the day the people who lose is once again...the exhibitors. Trust me, once you fuck up your back, it's permanent.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-05-2009 12:44 PM                        Where do the old film cans go when they die? Does Technicolor sell them by any chance? I either missed the post or I didn't read too well: Do the new boxes hold 6-7 reels, or only 3-4 each?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 12-05-2009 01:55 PM                     They'll probably shoo the old cans to the scrap metal department. Looking by the pict, that the box is the same size as a 7 reel FoxBox....and as heavy as one when loaded. *grunt* (Funny what is written on the side of the box "Warning, this box is HEAVY" ... "Frikken, NO DUH!..") Now, why would a company impliment an item that has potiental health dangers when before the prior items were safer and easier to use....That's the no-brainer in this one. -Monte  |  IP: Logged

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