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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Jim Cassedy
Also a note in the box that this print and all future 35mm releases from Universal will move from Deluxe/Technicolor to "Vision Media Management" in Lebec, CA.
Since Technicolor and Deluxe pulled out of 35mm print wrangling, Warners' and Sony's archive prints have shipped to us direct from their studio lots, but all other studio prints have come either from Vision Media Management, or HFC in Valencia.

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Bill Brandenstein
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Went to Sherman Oaks 5 tonight to avoid traffic and smoke from a local forest fire. The lineup is now:
Screen 1 - 35mm Ghostbusters, scope, SRD. Tends to look yellowish but otherwise very good, lovely film color and contrast, with loud dynamic sound. Masking and illumination were great for a change, and only the opening "Pacific Theater" snipes were flawed (started with scope, end portion was flat projected scope).
Screen 2 - digital "BFG"
Screen 3 - NEWLY digital, "Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates"
Screen 4 - 35mm "Secret Life of Pets" with gorgeous color and brightness (so much better looking than DLP) but had plenty of specks, plus light markings during one reel, and the sharp image was slightly smaller than the flat-ratio masking. Ugg. Worse, the Dolby reader must be broken because the sound was analog, and you could see through the port that the LED wasn't lit and the film wasn't threaded through it. Ugg.
Screen 5 - 35mm "Angry Birds." No show!

Attendance is still tepid. The evening show for "Ghostbusters" had maybe 20 people, and "Pets" had 15. How do they keep it going?

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Bill Brandenstein
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You might be interested to see this program sheet that I later found displayed down at the lobby:

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Leo Enticknap
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I was working at the Aero in Santa Monica on Saturday, and the smoke from that fire made for a gray sky all day and evening - and that was 30-40 miles south of the fire! Interestingly, the skies were clear and blue on Sunday, and the fire was still going on - the wind must have shifted.

Interesting that the Pacific is actually advertising the fact that a screening is on 35mm. I'm guessing that enough of their regular audience want to see 35mm that they now consider it a selling point. Or maybe they're only flagging it up because of the "no trailers" issue.

We have several box loads of 35mm trailers if they'd like any, but they are all for movies made between around 2000 and 2010!

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Ronan Nissenbaum
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Does anyone know of anywhere in the UK or mainland Europe that shows new releases on 35mm? I tend to be in London from time to time and would love to see some new film prints. Here in Dublin the Light House Cinema gets about one new print a year and they always seem to be from Warner Bros.. Interstellar in 2014, Inherent Vice in 2015, and Batman v Superman in 2016.

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Martin Brooks
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quote: Bill Brandenstein
Attendance is still tepid. The evening show for "Ghostbusters" had maybe 20 people, and "Pets" had 15. How do they keep it going?
I'm seeing this more and more - almost no one in the theater. A theater cannot make it just filling up perhaps 3-4 shows a week. This does not portend well for the future of movie theaters. In places where real estate is cheap and plentiful, they might survive for a time, but in big cities, I think more will disappear even though there's been a recent renovation boom.

In NYC, we've lost 32% of the theaters and 18% of the screen count since 2001. Although we are getting an Alamo Drafthouse 7-screener in Brooklyn that's supposed to open sometime this summer and the Regal Market Line 14 on the lower east side of Manhattan in 2018.

The first quarter of 2016 was a "record quarter" for AMC, yet if you break down the earnings report, they're only averaging 105 tickets per day, per screen. Net earnings per location per day is only $808. Net earnings per location for the quarter was only $73,506. But the Dalian Wanda Group must be happy because they're bidding $1.2 billion for Carmike which would make them bigger than Regal.

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Phil Tucker
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Hello, I am new to the forum and this is my first time posting here. I am very glad to be here!

Curiosity got the better of me, so I made a visit to the Pacific 5 Theater on Saturday after learning about it from this thread. As others have indicated it is an older theater, a bit run-down by today’s standards yet still capable of delivering a satisfying movie-going experience. I was told that they have three 35mm projectors in service. Indeed, three films (Pets / Birds / Ghostbusters) were being project from release prints according to the card in the lobby. I watched “Secret Life of Pets.” I noticed some light wear and a few brief emulsion scratches but overall it looked gorgeous and relatively clean.

There were maybe 10 other people in the theater. I struck up a few conversations and made some unscientific observations based on an extremely small sample. Surprisingly, none of the patrons I talked with were aware of the 35mm projectors or even seemed to care. That is not what brings them in the door. Rather, they perceive the theater as a friendly, local movie house where they can catch a flick that has been in release for several weeks at a reduced price, far away from the crowds found in larger movie houses. Agreed.

Pacific 5 doesn’t seem to be advertising the fact that they are using technology from the photochemical era. I suspect they may think of it as a liability more than an asset. But I can’t help but wonder, if the “New Beverly” crowd knew about it, how many more seats would be filled? I have to believe, here in Los Angeles, there are plenty of people who would show up if they knew about it.

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Mike Blakesley
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No doubt it would attract more people with better publicity - but advertising is expensive so it's tough to get the word out, and in a big city with dozens of first-run multiplexes competing for the moviegoers, and the stupidly-short video window, times are tough for anybody running much behind the break.

Welcome to the forum!

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Justin Hamaker
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quote: Leo Enticknap
I'm guessing that enough of their regular audience want to see 35mm
I would imagine they get people either way. Before we were 100% digital, we would get people who only wanted to go if the movie was playing in digital. I don't recall ever having anyone asking specifically to see it in 35mm.

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Eric Hooper
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Silver Cinemas at the Golden Triangle Mall in Denton, TX actually advertises they are showing 35mm film in the showtime description section for a movie on Fandango. (This is the section that usually states "Real 3D" or "Dolby Atmos" or "Luxury Recliners", etc.)

They have three digital houses and two 35mm film houses. They've had a dry spell lately, not being able to get any 35mm films, and only operating their three digital houses, with the two 35mm film houses dark. But last week they got the Turtles on 35mm film.

I remember about 6 months ago, the Sherman Oaks 5 did the same thing on Fandango, advertising their shows were 35mm film, but they've seemed to stop providing that info on Fandango. The listings now just say "Standard Showtimes" for all titles and showtimes.

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Shawn M. Martin
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I don't know if the "Secret in Their Eyes" remake from last year got prints, but in the end credits there is a "35mm Laboratory Services" credit for Labodigital, a lab in Mexico City. As far as I know, this movie was shot 100% digitally. Also, strangely, there is an SDDS logo in the credits, and it's the only sound logo.

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Simon Wyss
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Is it any wonder that cinema is not attended by adults with all the childish or at least for-children movies?

The Secret Life of Pets
Ice Age 5
Zoomania
Finding Dory
The Jungle Book (for about the twentieth time)
Star Trek Beyond

and so on and on

Friends, society has (become) turned infantile. I have lived different times, times when films were made for grown up people. Although I am quite far away from America I pity the development in Silicon Valley and on Silicon Beach. Mama Clinton is being prepared for taking over command. Horrible!

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Shawn M. Martin
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"The Finest Hours" has a "prints by Fotokem" credit.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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The 3D and CGI work in Jungle Book is spectacular. This is not so much a children's film as a family film, in the traditional sense of the word. It is entertaining for both children and adults, even adults who don't have children.

There are actually still a lot of "adult" oriented movies, but they do not play theatrically for very long. Honestly, adults (without children) do not go to the movies much anymore, so the studios do not specifically cater to them. Most adults around here who do care, have elaborate home theatres. The rest wait for cable tv, if they are interested at all.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Simon Wyss
Mama Clinton is being prepared for taking over command. Horrible!
Not wanting to veer this too much towards politics, but the documentary Hillary's America has now been playing for well over a month at one of the larger screens at my local neighborhood 12-plex. The first time I tried to see it, I was turned away because the screening was sold out, and had to make an advance booking to get in the second time, which was also almost full (for a 9.30pm showing on a Wednesday evening!)

So it seems that some adults still do go to the movies!

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