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Author Topic: Movies still being released on film Mark Campbell Expert Film Handler Posts: 148 From: Seattle, WA USA Registered: Jul 2007 posted 06-01-2016 12:11 PM                     RE Sherman Oaks 5: Are we sure Angry Birds isn't Digital? Captain America played in Digital for 2 weeks then was replaced by Angry Birds while BvS and MM kept on in 35mm. During that 1st week of Angry Birds on Sunday the 4PM-ish screening was replaced with 1 showing of Captain America (Disney 3 week obligation being fulfilled?). So if those were on same screen it would be digital would it not? During that week only 3 screens seemed to be operating. The following week added X-men with the previous week's lineup. If TMNT replaces angry birds this week it surely must be digital. If it were 35mm would't they have gotten rid if BvS or Mad Max? Angry Birds is the #3 film right now. I think the Sherman Oaks 5 currently has 2 digital screens, 2 35mm, and one being converted. Thats my theory!  |  IP: Logged Bill Brandenstein Master Film Handler Posts: 413 From: Santa Clarita, CA Registered: Jul 2013 posted 06-01-2016 04:00 PM                     I'm not going to have time to go back and check it out anytime soon, and your theory is certainly plausible, Mark! However, I disagree that Angry Bird replaced Captain America, because they opened X-Men and had both going at the same time. So X-Men had to have been digital. When I went 3 weeks ago and looked in every room, there was clearly digital capability in only one venue, and the "dark" room had 35mm and no audience (see longer post on previous page). Running only 3 screens was very brief but didn't seem to have resulted in a second digital conversion.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-01-2016 06:09 PM                        Why is the Sherman Oaks 5 a film holdout? It is a corporate theatre in a major market, not a small-town mom-and-pop cinema. Is Pacific really that hard up for cash? Is someone there a film-lover who wants to keep the medium alive? Is the lease about to expire? I love film as much as anyone here and hope that it never goes away, but I can't imagine playing first-run titles in 2016 without D-cinema capability. The lack of title availability would be a killer, especially for a multi-screen venue. Are people really still showing up to see a scratched print of Mad Max on weekday afternoons?  |  IP: Logged Bill Brandenstein Master Film Handler Posts: 413 From: Santa Clarita, CA Registered: Jul 2013 posted 06-02-2016 07:59 PM                     Scott, great questions all. Since Pacific Theaters' management isn't here with us, any answers we give are only based on presumption. Here's what I presume: Sherman Oaks 5 isn't a lease but is fully owned by Pacific, so it's cheap to hang onto; it's weak but has just enough of a market hold to persist for awhile, and the venue is uniquely appealing since 4 of the 5 rooms have balconies; and, perhaps most significantly, it's servicing the same neighborhood as Arclight Sherman Oaks that plays to the upscale market with "flawless" presentation and ticket prices nearly double that of SO5. And Arclight is owned by the same parent company. An oddity, to be sure. Pacific's other local venues have been digital since roughly 2010 or shortly thereafter, I think.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 06-03-2016 02:19 AM                        They're obviously not holding out as a deliberate policy, or else they'd be advertising far and wide that they still play 35mm in a bid to appeal to the "film forever" crowd. There has to be a reason why they aren't willing to invest in a digital upgrade, but are willing to keep the place open playing the very restricted range of new releases that are still available on 35mm. Lease about to expire has usually been that reason for other smallish 'plexes in this situation. However, with so much used digital equipment now on the market, they could probably convert the whole place using used but OK Series 1 gear for $100k-ish (which wouldn't have been an option during the initial conversion period): not much, given the ongoing operating costs of such a site. Maybe there's some weird factor involved unique to that site, e.g. asbestos lining in the walls that they can't disturb, or very restrictive building codes in that particular city?  |  IP: Logged Paul H. Rayton Expert Film Handler Posts: 210 From: Los Angeles, CA , USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 06-03-2016 02:48 PM                    This "Sherman Oaks 5" is an ex-GCC structure. The building was known, during the GCC days, as cinemas 3 - 7. Cinemas 1 & 2 were located across the street, and technically they (1 & 2) had a different street address, on Van Nuys Blvd. Those two were the originals, and the 5 were added later, though I can't recall the year. (I'm refreshing my memory from my old GCC Directory, from October 1998). Looks like 1 & 2 are demolished now, for a parking structure. My guess would be that these 5 screens, now as part of Pacific, are living out the term of the lease.  |  IP: Logged Bill Brandenstein Master Film Handler Posts: 413 From: Santa Clarita, CA Registered: Jul 2013 posted 06-04-2016 03:07 PM                     Well, that sounds like a reasonable explanation, particularly if there was a long lease like 10 or 20 years involved. Yes Paul, the parking structure for a pharmacy occupies the former footprint of "1 & 2" which, back in the day, was where I first heard Cinema Digital Sound on a secret (unadvertised) trial run. I remember telling my buddy, when the movie finished and he asked me what I thought about the sound there, that it was better than normal and all movies ought to sound that crisp. It was years later before I found out why it was so good.  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 06-29-2016 05:43 PM                     quote: Bill Brandenstein the parking structure for a pharmacy occupies the former footprint of "1 & 2" which, back in the day, was where I first heard Cinema Digital Sound on a secret (unadvertised) trial run. Care to divulge the title?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-29-2016 11:13 PM                     There was a CDS Demo Film.,it was set up at a Syufy Dome theater in Vegas for Showest one year. It was fairly impressive... Mark  |  IP: Logged Bill Brandenstein Master Film Handler Posts: 413 From: Santa Clarita, CA Registered: Jul 2013 posted 06-30-2016 07:30 PM                     Edward Scissorhands, I believe, in practically a pre-release run of CDS, which was unannounced at that screening (perhaps in case of difficulties?).  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 06-30-2016 10:38 PM                     Edward Scissorhands was advertised in CDS and has the logo in its end credits- Days of Thunder also played in CDS a few months before that. Star Trek VI and Newsies were shown unadvertised in Dolby Digital as a test for that format.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 07-01-2016 05:41 PM                     quote: Paul H. Rayton My guess would be that these 5 screens, now as part of Pacific, are living out the term of the lease. Sherman Oaks (1,2) opened as a twin. Then they opened a triplex (3,4,5) across the street. It was damaged in the Northridge earthquake. GCC built a new 5 plex with 4 V-5's and one V-8 (only setup for 35mm no mag). It was a GCC than AMC and now Pacific. I opened the GCC Sherman Oaks 3-7 theatres. There was no CDS material or equipment in the twins booth when I was there.  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 07-02-2016 11:17 AM                        films presented in Cinema Digital Sound One of the last Film Notes for the Reel People discusses CDS.  |  IP: Logged Shawn M. Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 175 From: Arlington, VA, USA Registered: Feb 2012 posted 07-02-2016 09:17 PM                    "Zootopia" has a "prints by Fotokem" credit.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 07-08-2016 04:18 PM                     Saw a 35mm print of SECRET LIFE OF PETS in a booth when I stopped in at a theater to check some equipment the other night. I took a quick peek at the shipment and there were no lab stickers on the box, although the leaders say "Color By Deluxe" on them & markings that indicate the film-out rendering was done by e-film in Hollywood, on an Arrilaser recorder. Also a note in the box that this print and all future 35mm releases from Universal will move from Deluxe/Technicolor to "Vision Media Management" in Lebec, CA. Theater owner also told me he had been offered the new GHOSTBUSTERS in 35mm also.  |  IP: Logged

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