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Author Topic: Movies still being released on film Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 12-07-2016 09:41 PM                     I've noticed the Dolby Digital logo on several recent movies also, and wonder if they had film prints made or not. Haven't seen SDDS or Datasat (DTS) in a while, guess those have gone the way of Vitaphone.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 12-08-2016 11:58 PM                        SDDS probably has gone the way of Vitaphone, but Dolby digital and DTS/Datasat are still there. All the 35mm prints of new release films I've seen in the last year or two have had SR-D on them. I forget who, but someone bought the rights to the DTS film system from Datasat, and works with FotoKem to offer new audio encodings and timecodes now. We played a new 5/70 print of the last (three-image) reel of Napoleon at TCM earlier this year, which was DTS and had an audio serial # higher than that of The Hateful Eight. So it is hanging on. As for Vitaphone, I've often thought that it would be cool (though admittedly, somewhat pointless) to recreate a show using selsyn-locked turntables and newly cut discs. It wouldn't be particularly difficult or expensive to cut new lacquers (that would be good for a few plays) from preservation audio masters, and kinda fun to try to get the changeovers right. You'd probably need to use a slightly inauthentic approach - e.g. cut 12" discs at 45 RPM - because turntables that can take a 16" record are a lot rarer, but it would still be fun to do.  |  IP: Logged Simon Wyss Film Handler Posts: 80 From: Basel, BS, Switzerland Registered: Apr 2011 posted 12-09-2016 01:52 AM                     Oh, no, not pointless at all! As with the 4-to-3 image aspect ratio, 16 frames per second or hand cranking old sound systems can be used any time again. I find it on the contrary important that our heritage lives on. How else than by continuing to live older techniques should we be able to preserve them? You are so right to suggest having fun with Vitaphone, in its original or another form. A few years ago I made fresh sound tracks of the variable density type. Not everything was simple, an appropriate film stock was missing above all. Yet, the client was happy. Still have the light gun and wish I could enhance it one day.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 12-09-2016 05:06 PM                        I'm curious if anyone has a current count of the number of first run or discount theatres still equipped with 35mm equipment on at least some screens. Looking at the list of movies on the last page, I don't see how a 35mm theatre could still be make enough to cover expenses.  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 12-10-2016 12:36 PM                     Golden Triangle has Jack Reacher 2: Never Go Back on 35mm film...  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-10-2016 07:04 PM                        Agreed with Justin--I don't see how anyone could survive with only 35mm capability and a mainstream first-run booking policy at this point. It might work for a seasonal or weekends-only venue in a small town, but probably not for anyone else. I know plenty of venues that have kept 35mm when adding D-cinema, but their bread-and-butter programming is all DCP at this point. Film is just for festivals and special events.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 12-12-2016 09:14 PM                     "SING" is available in 35mm. I know someone who's booked a print. (I've already run this about half-a-dozen times for various private press & preview screenings, but only the DCP version. )  |  IP: Logged Matt Russell Expert Film Handler Posts: 142 From: Aurora, USA Registered: Aug 2015 posted 12-12-2016 10:36 PM                    I know it's getting a IMAX 70mm release, but has anyone heard news of 35mm Rogue One prints?  |  IP: Logged Matt Miller Film Handler Posts: 10 From: Los Angeles, CA, USA Registered: Dec 2015 posted 12-13-2016 01:11 AM                        Thought I'd add my own story to the speculation surrounding the Sherman Oaks 5. Some of you may remember earlier this year when my company Vanishing Angle released our film TOO LATE exclusively on 35mm. We tried to book the Sherman Oaks 5 but they seemingly had no interest. Granted we were a smaller independent film, but we did well enough to get held over for three weeks at the Sunset 5 in West Hollywood and two weeks at the Village East in Manhattan. And this was when all 5 Sherman Oaks screens were still running 35mm. They had been playing Mad Max and Jurassic World for about nine months at that point, but they still preferred to keep grinding those prints than take a small risk on our movie. We even had 35mm prints of our trailer that they could have run on all their screens in the preceding weeks. That location still has potential and it's a real shame that it's wasting away.  |  IP: Logged Anthony Benavides Film Handler Posts: 9 From: Laredo, Texas, USA Registered: Aug 2016 posted 12-13-2016 08:33 PM                     Hey everyone! Long-time lurker turned active poster. I work for the Alamo Drafthouse Cinema down here in Laredo, Texas. (150 miles away from San Antonio and another 200 from Austin) If anyone is familiar with our programming, we do tend to do a lot of 35mm screenings of older prints not so much new releases. We are expecting to receive a print of Nolan's "Dunkirk". It's interesting to learn that studios are still making prints. I was under the impression that they were only made for special releases like "Dunkirk". From my own experience and dealing with our booker, since the industry has adopted a "preservation" stance on a lot of older titles it's harder to get prints. My venue's only advantage is that we are the only location (with the exception of the Austin venues) that runs Reel-to-Reel. As a result, we tend to get our requests for film 90% of the time. Wonder what the process of getting a new release print is like for the booker and on the operations side of things (which I can't really speak to - higher ups and big wigs, etc.) is it even worth it? As a younger projectionist who has just started handling film, It would be great to have some semi-regular new releases in 35mm. -Ant  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 12-13-2016 10:50 PM                        I'd be interested to know how one is able to "qualify" for a new release title in 35mm, too. I'm guessing that you have to not have any digital projection capability in the auditorium you want to book, and also have a history of grosses for new mainstream releases that would make it worth the studios' while to have a print struck for you, and incur all the overheads involved in that process. For repertory and arthouse titles, the main requirement is to convince the distributors that still handle significant numbers of 35mm prints (e.g. Park Circus, the studio archives and the major nonprofit archives) that you're capable of taking good care of them.  |  IP: Logged Bill Brandenstein Master Film Handler Posts: 413 From: Santa Clarita, CA Registered: Jul 2013 posted 12-14-2016 05:56 PM                     Following on Jim's post, IMDB lists nothing for "Sing" so far as film prints goes, but Moana credits FotoKem even though "Printed Film Format" is DCP. Interesting, Moana also claims an SDDS "mix." What's to believe?  |  IP: Logged Fredrik Sandstrom Film Handler Posts: 63 From: Turku, Varsinais-Suomi, FINLAND Registered: Mar 2014 posted 12-15-2016 07:31 AM                     I wouldn't put credence in any piece of information on imdb unless it can be confirmed by another source. For what it's worth, imdb claims 35mm prints for at least the following 2016 titles that have not been reported here. If someone can confirm any of these exist, that would be nice. 10 Cloverfield Lane 13 Hours Arrival Finding Dory Hail, Caesar! Ice Age: Collision Course Jackie Kimi no na wa. Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates Silence Trolls In particular, Ice Age is suspect in that prints are claimed to come from DeLuxe, on Fuji Eterna stock, which is discontinued.  |  IP: Logged Julian Antos Film Handler Posts: 76 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Nov 2009 posted 12-15-2016 02:07 PM                     Was told by Universal that there were no prints made for HAIL, CAESAR, though that doesn't necessarily mean there were no prints for international markets or for copyright deposit.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 12-18-2016 07:52 PM                     quote: Following on Jim's post, IMDB lists nothing for "Sing" ...<edit>... What's to believe? Well, I wouldn't put my money on IMDB. I've done at least half a dozen or more advance preview & press screenings for this flick, over the past few weeks, and had a 35mm back-up print for most of them. It has since been shipped to a theater for opening this week. " Exhibit A" - "Exhibit B" - "Exhibit C" - . . . case closed....  |  IP: Logged

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