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Thomas Hauerslev
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posted 06-30-2017 12:38 PM

wonder away and speculate - it's just a waste of time

Let's deal with facts

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Stephan Shelley
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posted 06-30-2017 08:18 PM

Tower Theatre Sacramento CA

and unless they change there mind at the last minuet:

the Century/Cinemarks: San Francisco Center, Daley City CA, Union City CA and Oakridge San Jose CA

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Scott Norwood
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posted 07-01-2017 07:18 AM

Coolidge Corner in Brookline, MA. is advertising 70mm screenings as well. Like most of the venues on the list so far, they are permanently equipped for 70mm projection (although I do not believe that they own mag or DTS sound equipment).

Both the Coolidge and Somerville are advertising a 7/20 opening. I wish that they had given the 5/70 and 15/70 venues a week or more of lead time over the national release, but I suppose that one day is better than nothing.

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Brad Miller
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posted 07-01-2017 10:59 AM

Scott, I'm sure all of the digital theaters will open with Thursday evening shows (the 20th) like most movies do these days as a way to "cheat" to get a bigger opening box office number.

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Stephan Shelley
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posted 07-01-2017 01:40 PM

The Tower in Sacramento and the 4 Cinemark theatres in San Francisco Bay Area are H8 installations. My understanding is the theatres are purchasing the equipment at a discount and making them permanent installs.

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William Kucharski
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posted 07-02-2017 01:22 PM

The management of the Regal Colorado Blvd. IMAX in Denver just confirmed to me that they will not be getting Dunkirk on film. They said they just had too many issues showing Interstellar off film.

They did confirm that the Regal Continental down the street will be getting a 70 mm print, but I know they haven't moved the projector from the house they showed Hateful 8 in, which is a tiny multiplex-sized screen and a much smaller theater in general.

Very depressing news and it has me pricing flights. [Frown]

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Scott Norwood
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posted 07-02-2017 02:41 PM

quote: William Kucharski
The management of the Regal Colorado Blvd. IMAX in Denver just confirmed to me that they will not be getting Dunkirk on film. They said they just had too many issues showing Interstellar off film.

So, rather than fix the issues, they decided just to not show it? That seems about right for what passes for "logic" in the exhibition industry.

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William Kucharski
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posted 07-02-2017 05:15 PM

The manager very much seemed to have the attitude that showing film was just a hassle not worth the trouble. :-(

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Geoff Jones
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posted 07-02-2017 05:30 PM

I talked to the colorado center LieMax and was also told they won't be showing it on film. Thomas Hauerslev, please remove it from the In70MM list. I would hate for anyone to see it there in low res 2k digital by mistake.

I called the Continental and asked that they please fix the green light on the screen. I offered to come by with a piece of cardboard. They guy I spoke to said he would talk to his manager "Brad" and I should call back Wednesday or Thursday.

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William Kucharski
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posted 07-02-2017 10:16 PM

quote: Geoff Jones
I talked to the colorado center LieMax

Let's not confuse terms; Colorado Center is one of the two actual real IMAX screens in the Denver area.

The problem is they don't care about providing a special experience for their customers, they just want to go with whatever is easiest, which is how most exhibitors operate today.

Given how much of this film was shot with IMAX cameras, I suspect I will see it in 70mm first and then soft IMAX 2K, but I hate to reward their laziness.

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Geoff Jones
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posted 07-03-2017 08:12 AM

quote: Geoff Jones
I talked to the colorado center LieMax

Sorry, I should have said: I talked to the colorado center, where they use 2k LieMax projectors on their giant imax screen, which is arguably worse than what you get at standard LieMax installs.

Geoff

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 07-03-2017 10:10 AM

2K IMAX digital projection is indeed much worse on giant sized IMAX screens originally built for 15/70mm film projection. Such screens should only be starting out with the 4K laser-based system. It's just too bad the 4K IMAX system is so freakishly expensive.

quote: Scott Norwood
So, rather than fix the issues, they decided just to not show it? That seems about right for what passes for "logic" in the exhibition industry.

I think the problem is many exhibitors have the attitude "it doesn't matter; the customers won't notice the difference." If that's really the case, all of those exhibitors sure as shit need to do something to educate viewers to make it matter. If the customers won't notice the difference why should the customers even bother going to the damned theater? Why not just save a bunch of money and watch the movie at home? The attitude of "it doesn't matter" works both ways. It becomes a fatal problem for theaters when the customer decides "it doesn't matter."

Anyone in the movie theater business believing "it doesn't matter" needs to wake up to current events. Everyone in this forum knows the 1980's and 1990's are long gone. I wonder if the "deciders" in movie studios, big theater chains and high profile theaters understand this. Home viewers are no longer stuck with little square TV sets playing VHS tapes or SD DVDs. Everyone has HDTV at home. It's common enough that "HDTV" has become standard TV. Huge flat panel TV sets, even ones with 4K resolution, are very affordable and increasingly common. Blu-ray players are cheap. The majority of Americans now have access to Internet connections fast enough to stream Blu-ray quality video. The cable ISP here in Lawton just upped its max tier from 125Mb/s to 250Mb/s. Those are modest speeds compared to service in many larger cities.

The thing I find even more troubling is just how easy it is for home viewers to access pirated content. Those modded Amazon Fire sticks are very common. The interfaces of the piracy apps are polished enough that many users are fooled into believing they're accessing a legal, legit movie streaming service. Even if someone wants to wait to watch the movie legally at home that wait is down to about 90 days.

Exhibitors cannot afford to be complacent anymore. They're really going have to work harder to sell customers on why they need to see the movie in the theater rather than stay at home.

In case anyone hasn't noticed "main street" has been taking a beating lately. Major brick and mortar retailers of all types are in big trouble. Many stores are closing. Traditional shopping malls are in crisis mode. They're no match for sales tax free online shopping. The contagion in brick and mortar retail is spreading to the restaurant sector; that business overall is way down. As foot traffic dwindles at many of those businesses it could very well adversely affect movie theaters in the very same way. The Internet has already made video rental stores and music stores nearly extinct. Why would movie theaters be immune to this impending disaster?

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Thomas Hauerslev
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posted 07-03-2017 03:24 PM

Can we get the thread back to the issue of which cinemas which will show "Dunkirk" in 70mm, please?

This seemingly endless discussion of why exhibitors does it differently than your want, is irellevant to this thread.

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Martin McCaffery
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posted 07-05-2017 10:32 AM

Variety

quote:
Christopher Nolan’s ‘Dunkirk’ Scores Widest 70MM Release in 25 Years
Brent Lang
Senior Film and Media Editor
@BrentALang

JULY 5, 2017 | 07:56AM PT
“Dunkirk” will appear in 125 70MM theaters, Warner Bros. Pictures said Wednesday. That’s the widest release in the format in 25 years, a testament to director Christopher Nolan’s clout and belief in the superiority of these screenings.

Directors such as Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson, Quentin Tarantino swear by 70MM, the industry term for a wide high-resolution film gauge that was once used to project epic films such as “Lawrence of Arabia” and “Ben-Hur.” They believe it creates crisper, more painterly images. However, theater chains have moved away from film projection, in favor of cheaper, digital forms of exhibition. It takes a filmmaker with enormous influence to compel them to take old equipment out of mothballs and hire staff that can work the older projectors.

In 2016, Quentin Tarantino and the Weinstein Company rolled out “The Hateful Eight” across roughly 100 70MM locations. The indie studio ginned up a lot of publicity for the move, but it was pricey, with some industry observers speculating that it cost exhibitors between $8 million and $10 million to rebuild or install the equipment.

In 2014, Nolan convinced Paramount and Warner Bros. to let him screen “Interstellar” in 50 IMAX enabled 70 MM venues. Other films such as Anderson’s “The Master” and Kenneth Branagh’s “Hamlet” have been shot on 65MM film stock as a way of emphasizing their dramatic scope.

“Dunkirk” focuses on a decisive World War II battle. It stars Tom Hardy, Branagh, Mark Rylance, Harry Styles, and newcomer Fionn Whitehead. Nolan always wanted to film to screen on 70MM and shot much of “Dunkirk” with IMAX’s extremely high-resolution 2D film cameras. The director is something of a film traditionalist. He has publicly rejected attempts by studios to offer movies on home entertainment platforms early, advocating instead of the theatrical experience. He also is no fan of digital projection.

“I have been a longtime proponent of film – particularly the IMAX film format – as a
storytelling medium,” Nolan said in a statement. “The immersive quality of the image is second to none, drawing the audience into the action in the most intense way possible.”

Tickets to the 70MM engagements of “Dunkirk” go on sale on Wednesday. Regular tickets are available on Friday. The film opens on July 21.

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Tyler Purcell
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posted 07-05-2017 06:25 PM

For those of us in LA, Dunkirk will be playing at the Cinerama Dome starting July 20th in 70mm. Probably the best place in LA to see it outside of the AMC Universal City, which is playing it on 15/70.

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