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Topic: Anyone consuming HD or Blu-ray?
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-24-2007 06:15 PM
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Well, I know alot of people that watch the extras that are put on most disks.
Most of the people you know must be avid film geeks. Most people I know are regular people who don't do any sorts of film related jobs. Most of those people couldn't give one fart about extras on the disc. I am one of what seems to be a small minority of viewers that does care about stuff like commentary tracks, deleted scenes, etc.
quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Humm... Bobby's forgotten that 1080i sets deinterlace the image as it is put on screen. Its the way the display operates
What the hell does that have to do with anything? And just where the hell was I talking about differences between progressive and interlace scan? WTF???
Simply put, many HDTV sets out there are far from perfect, even ones that cost several grand.
Most digital TV sets in use don't display a native 1920 X 1080 pixel image, among other problems. Some manufacturers like Samsung lie their asses off about their so-called "1080p" rating. Most of Samsung's current crop of DLP "1080p" HDTV sets really only have half that resolution. They use some "wobbulation" technique to get away with using a much smaller and much cheaper DLP chip with half the pixels to provide a faked 1920 X 1080 pixel image.
Not too many people would care about this issue, but nearly all HDTVs are completely laughable in their implementations of computer monitor functions. Hook up a computer and that "1080p" HD set will either severely crop or window box the operating system desktop. Often you'll get dumped down to a much lower resolution setting as well. As I said, it's pathetic. Until the HDTV makers can properly display a Windows (or Mac) desktop at 1920 X 1080 pixels without severe cropping or window boxing they should probably just leave out those computer monitor inputs.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-26-2007 01:31 AM
Visit any Sears location and you'll find at least a few of those rear-projection Samsung faked 1080p DLP TV sets with their cheaper wobbulated DLP chip.
And yes, Mitsubishi is indeed a different company. They may be using a fully native 1920 X 1080 DLP chip (but with a color wheel just like almost everyone else since it is just 1 chip and not 3). However, they could be stooping to "good enough" bullshit business tactics like Samsung is doing with many of their DLP TVs. Buyer beware. The issue is worth checking regardless of brand name.
On the subject of "perfect" and HDTV sets, sure, many people are going to have varying standards of what they consider "perfect." Mine are simply having the given function of the set working correctly. The computer monitor function thing is one where very very few HDTV sets (if any at all in existence) work properly. I have looked at a LOT of HDTV monitors over the last 3 years and every Goddamned one of them has come up short in one way or another when it came to computer monitor functions. The electronics companies really deserve the merciless criticism on this issue.
Computer monitor function may not seem important right now in a HDTV monitor, but it will be vital in just a few years. I believe a lot of people will be hooking up their computer systems, phones (and other things like security cameras) to their giant sized primary television set. These big TVs will need to pull multiple duties on top of just displaying the images from a satellite dish, cable TV wire or input from a optical movie disk player. "Convergence" of multiple uses of entertainment and business functions will center on that TV set. It is long overdue for the electronics companies to get the job done correctly in displaying the imagery from those varied image sources. Whoever can manage to do the job right ahead of all the other idiots is going to make a lot more money. Does Apple need to step in and cure this mess? C'mon, it seems pretty freaking simple. The TV makers just aren't taking the issue seriously.
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