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Mike Heenan
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From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
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posted 12-22-2007 12:37 PM

Great, now while enjoying your latest HD dvd, you'll get clogged arteries and possibly cancerous carcinogens from the grill on your steak... [Wink]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 12-22-2007 12:52 PM

quote: Mike Heenan
Great, now while enjoying your latest HD dvd, you'll get clogged arteries and possibly cancerous carcinogens from the grill on your steak...

Mike,

I'm flattered that you worry so for me. I actually eat more fish and greens than I do steak... ok throw in some crinkle cut fries now and then. But weather I eat steak or fish at least I'm enjoying my HD-DVD player and not being a babble head here like most of the others are.
Next time I'm down Arizona way I'll buy you a steak at your favorite restaurant [thumbsup]

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Frank Angel
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posted 12-22-2007 04:17 PM

quote: Larry Myers
With the Samsung, you must use the hand controller to operate the machine. No controls are on the machine itself.

I came across this a few times in my long history of buying consumer stuff. After the first time I got stung, from then on when I buy a new component, I also buy a learning remote so I can ingest the commands into it; then I put the original remote away for safe keeping. This way, if the learning remote craps out after years of use, you can just take out the original (providing you remember where you put it or your lady hasn't seen fit to throw it out) and either use it or get a new learning remote for more protection.

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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 12-24-2007 10:06 AM

I knew I read it somewhere.

Official Press Release

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LOS ANGELES, Aug. 20 -- Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc. (NYSE: VIA and VIA.B) and DreamWorks Animation SKG (NYSE: DWA), each announced today that they will exclusively support the next-generation HD DVD format on a worldwide basis. The exclusive HD DVD commitment will include all movies distributed by Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, Paramount Vantage, Nickelodeon Movies and MTV Films, as well as movies from DreamWorks Animation, which are distributed exclusively by Paramount Home Entertainment.

The companies each said that the decision to distribute exclusively in the HD DVD format resulted from an extensive evaluation of current market offerings, which confirmed the clear benefits of HD DVD, particularly its market-ready technology and lower manufacturing costs. Paramount Home Entertainment will launch its exclusive HD DVD program with the release of the blockbuster comedy hit "Blades of Glory" on August 28th and follow with two of the biggest grossing movies of the year "Transformers" and "Shrek the Third". These three titles alone represent more than $1.5 billion in box office ticket sales worldwide.

"The combination of Paramount and DreamWorks Animation brings a critical mass of current box office hits to consumers with a line-up of live action and animated films that are perfect for HD DVD," stated Brad Grey, Chairman and CEO of Paramount Pictures, which is currently the leading studio in domestic box office. "Part of our vision is to aggressively extend our movies beyond the theater, and deliver the quality and features that appeal to our audience. I believe HD DVD is not only the affordable high quality choice for consumers, but also the smart choice for Paramount."

"We decided to release "Shrek the Third" and other DreamWorks Animation titles exclusively on HD DVD because we believe it is the best format to bring high quality home entertainment to a key segment of our audience -- families," stated DreamWorks Animation CEO, Jeffrey Katzenberg. "We believe the combination of this year's low-priced HD DVD players and the commitment to release a significant number of hit titles in the fall makes HD DVD the best way to view movies at home."

With the rapid increase of HD TV screens in households, and audiences wanting to enjoy the total entertainment experience, HD DVD has emerged as the most affordable way for consumers to watch their movies in high definition. In addition to pristine quality, HD DVD also offers consumers the chance to personalize the movie-watching experience, to interact with their movies and even to connect with a community of other fans.

Paramount Home Entertainment will issue new releases day and date as well as catalog titles exclusively on HD DVD. Today's announcement does not include films directed by Steven Spielberg as his films are not exclusive to either format.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 12-24-2007 02:45 PM

I could really care less what either side does or what which studio does. My wife insisted we also get a Blew Ray player and we've had it for over a month now.... Ha! You guys will be debating this stupid stuff till hell freezes over while I'm in the middle of grilling some nice Salmon filets while a fresh Blew Ray copy of "Christmas Vacation" awaits my viewing.

BTW: Both formats look identical on both of my tv's... the BDP-S300 Blew Ray is ALOT slower at loading in movies than HD-DVD is. Haven't checked the firmware version in the Blew Ray as of yet though.

Mark

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Mike Heenan
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posted 12-24-2007 02:49 PM

I think it varies title to title though... While I was at a friends place, Pirates of the Carribean took something like 2 minutes to load up, while here Departed and several other WB titles dont seem to take any longer than SD DVDs.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 12-24-2007 02:53 PM

What is there to load? Fancy menus = LAME on any format.

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Jason Black
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posted 12-24-2007 04:06 PM

I still don't see what all the fuss is about. I could care less about director commentaries, special scenes, etc.. I just want to watch the movie.

The one thing I *wish* they would do is eliminate trailers at the beginning of DVD's.

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Ron Funderburg
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posted 12-24-2007 06:00 PM

Disney is exclusively Blue Ray and Paramount and our friends at SKG (Dreamworks) are only on HD DVD visions of betamax run though my head! It isn't always the best that becomes the standard and who knows but if they all chose up a side it will ensure more sales of each as everyone will need both!

Which to get first and what if I chose wrong and a year from now the other is all there is! Oh well it doesn't matter I will buy one and when I can afford the other get it just don't know which will be first! HD/BlueRay BlueRay/HD decisions decisions!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 12-24-2007 06:56 PM

Die Hard took quite a while to load... like it needed to buffer a bunch of data or something to that extent. There is a crawler that popped up between previews and movie and it crawled for well into 4 minutes before playing it. Odd thing is that it played the previews just fine right off the bat but then went into the load thingy for the 4 min. before it played the movie itself. Other Blew Ray disks that I have play right off the bat... I bought three others today that had warning sheets inside the front cover to check your firmware version so the disk would play ok... which for the BDP-S300 is at ver 3.70 as of Dec. 20th. I read on HI-Def Forum that some say that 3.7 loads faster than the ver. 3.3 that is in my machine... will do the update sooner or later but its alot more inconvenient to pull off than the ethernet port on the HD-A2... Sony should have at least put in a USB jack to do the upload... Even my cheapo bedroom Olevia has a USB port specifically for firmware upgrades... You have to download an ISO and burn that onto a CD-R disk and then load it that way.

The main thing is that it works... slow or not.

quote: Jason Black
The one thing I *wish* they would do is eliminate trailers at the beginning of DVD's.

Thats what the "Next" button on your remote is for!

Mark

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Steve Guttag
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posted 12-24-2007 07:20 PM

I don't know how many other DVD players can do this, but the Denon DN-V210 and DN-V310 can skip all of the warnings/intro stuff and even the main menu and go straight to the movie. They are not HD players but regular SD players. Perhaps it is their pro status that allows this but it has been a nice feature in theatrical environments.

Steve

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Richard Fowler
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posted 12-24-2007 09:05 PM

I have used the Denon in two recent installs and have one racked for rental....great units [Cool]

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Jason Black
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posted 12-25-2007 12:42 AM

Mark:
Many DVD's do not allow for 'jumping' the trailers. One, for example, is Smokin Aces, which i just watched.

I know that out of the 300 or so DVD's we have, many of them do not allow you to jump forward, unless it's the DVD player, which is a Toshiba unit with HDMI connection. Not sure of the model number, but it's only a year old...

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 12-25-2007 01:09 AM

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Ha! You guys will be debating this stupid stuff till hell freezes over while I'm in the middle of grilling some nice Salmon filets while a fresh Blew Ray copy of "Christmas Vacation" awaits my viewing.

Mark, as shitty as most recent movies have been lately, who really gives a rat's ass about what's available on "HD-DUD" or "Blew-Ray"?

Those of us holding out are not missing much of anything at all. Right now HD just means being able to see new movies as shitty as they are in even more shitty clarity.

As much as you have going on with all the boring Sony-brand hatred, those anti "Blew Ray" principals seem to be shot if you're going to buy into the format.

Lately some have been talking about "Hairy Pooter" or Bladerunner box set packaging problems as a means of slamming either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. That is all about human error and has nothing at all to do with any perceived notion that "HD-DUD" is better than "Blew-Ray." I say take it out the folks who picked the cheapest way possible to package the discs rather than paying attention to quality control. Lots of other products have multiple inventories and don't have these sorts of issues.

With all this format war crap run amok, I wouldn't be surprised to see Internet download standards kill the disc based formats. Microsoft, as crazy as it is thinks it will have a corner on the market. Apple and any number of other far more capable companies will take their "HDi" ball, ram it down their throat, and take over the market for themselves.

Bill Gates is right to get out right now and just start getting into the philanthropy business. His Microsoft company is poised to get beaten to shreds over the next 20 years. I think their would-be sly strategy of cornering the HD movie market by keeping the "HD-DUD" and "Blew-Ray" markets divided will backfire on them. Apple, Adobe, Avid, Autodesk and a bunch of other true creative computing companies will bulldoze their asses into oblivion on this one.

[ 12-25-2007, 07:04 AM: Message edited by: Bobby Henderson ]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 12-25-2007 02:23 PM

Well Bobby, then it certainly is interesting that you are so concerned about what format does what....

Mark

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