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Mike Schindler
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Probably the best place to go is here .

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Bobby Henderson
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Press Release Link

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February 19, 2008 03:00 AM Eastern Time

Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses

Company Remains Focused on Championing Consumer Access to High Definition Content

TOKYO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Toshiba Corporation today announced that it has undertaken a thorough review of its overall strategy for HD DVD and has decided it will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders. This decision has been made following recent major changes in the market. Toshiba will continue, however, to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products.

HD DVD was developed to offer consumers access at an affordable price to high-quality, high definition content and prepare them for the digital convergence of tomorrow where the fusion of consumer electronics and IT will continue to progress.

“We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop,” said Atsutoshi Nishida, President and CEO of Toshiba Corporation. "While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality.”

Toshiba will continue to lead innovation, in a wide range of technologies that will drive mass market access to high definition content. These include high capacity NAND flash memory, small form factor hard disk drives, next generation CPUs, visual processing, and wireless and encryption technologies. The company expects to make forthcoming announcements around strategic progress in these convergence technologies.

Toshiba will begin to reduce shipments of HD DVD players and recorders to retail channels, aiming for cessation of these businesses by the end of March 2008. Toshiba also plans to end volume production of HD DVD disk drives for such applications as PCs and games in the same timeframe, yet will continue to make efforts to meet customer requirements. The company will continue to assess the position of notebook PCs with integrated HD DVD drives within the overall PC business relative to future market demand.

This decision will not impact on Toshiba’s commitment to standard DVD, and the company will continue to market conventional DVD players and recorders. Toshiba intends to continue to contribute to the development of the DVD industry, as a member of the DVD Forum, an international organization with some 200 member companies, committed to the discussion and defining of optimum optical disc formats for the consumer and the related industries.

Toshiba also intends to maintain collaborative relations with the companies who joined with Toshiba in working to build up the HD DVD market, including Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures, and DreamWorks Animation and major Japanese and European content providers on the entertainment side, as well as leaders in the IT industry, including Microsoft, Intel, and HP. Toshiba will study possible collaboration with these companies for future business opportunities, utilizing the many assets generated through the development of HD DVD.

Obviously the other shoe that has to drop is Universal Pictures and Paramount/Dreamworks making some sort of statement regarding plans for releasing movies on Blu-ray Disc.

Universal Pictures released American Gangster on HD-DVD Combo Disc today. It could end up being the studio's last HD-DVD release. Last week, Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits' website stated Universal either canceled or postponed a number of other upcoming HD-DVD releases.

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Mark J. Marshall
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Ok, show of hands... who didn't see this coming from a mile away?

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Bobby Henderson
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Obviously some were convinced HD-DVD would win the format war. I thought we were well on the way to having dual format HD-DVD/Blu-ray Disc machines become the norm. But Warner Bros.' January announcement changed all of that.

The Digital Bits says at least a couple Toshiba executives considered suing Warner Bros. over the January announcement, but felt such a move could ultimately be very costly against their other businesses.

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Larry Myers
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It matters not to me that Toshiba is discontinued. What matters to me most is exactly when the HD DVD movies already made are reduced to $5 each. On Ebay right now you have two choices. One is to bid about $18-20 to win a movie and then pay about $4 for delivery. The other is to bid on 10 movies for about $120 and get 5 you don't want.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Larry Myers
It matters not to me that Toshiba is discontinued. What matters to me most is exactly when the HD DVD movies already made are reduced to $5 each.
That is probably not going to happen.

What is far more likely is Toshiba will soon have any unsold HD-DVD hardware returned to them for recycling/destruction and a big tax write off. The movie studios with HD-DVD releases will do the same thing with unsold HD-DVD discs. In fact, this has been happening to some degree already. When I was buying my HD gear I watched Circuit City employees box up a few dozen HD-DVD movie discs to send back to the distributors.

The Toshiba press release states an End of March time line for removal of HD-DVD products from retail stores. I have a strong feeling the removal will happen significantly faster than that.

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Bruce Hansen
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It was even on the crawl at the botom of the screen during "Good Morning America":

Toshiba has stoped making HDDVD, BluRay wins the HD disc format war.

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Mike Schindler
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Universal has already officially flipped. From Home Media Magazine:

"While Universal values the close partnership we have shared with Toshiba, it is time to turn our focus to releasing new and catalog titles on Blu-ray," said Craig Kornblau, president of Universal Studios Home Entertainment.

"The path for widespread adoption of the next-generation platform has finally become clear. Universal will continue its aggressive efforts to broaden awareness for hi-def’s unparalleled offerings in interactivity and connectivity, at an increasingly affordable price. The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."

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Adam Wilbert
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quote: Bruce Hansen
Toshiba has stoped making HDDVD, BluRay wins the HD disc format war.
Well, happy VT day everyone!

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Obviously some were convinced HD-DVD would win the format war.
Some are convinced that digital will completely replace film as an art form too.

...and that platters scratch movies.

...and that guns kill people.

..and that... oh, well. Never mind.

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Larry Myers
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I guess I was not thinking so much of HD DVD's still at the store but rather secondary market DVD's as you see on Ebay.

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Bobby Henderson
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Even looking for HD-DVD movies for only $5 on eBay sounds like wishful thinking.

If I had a bunch of still perfectly functional HD-DVD movies and a HD-DVD player, I sure wouldn't be turning loose of those movies for only a mere $5 each -especially when the darned things cost $25 to $35 brand new. The only way I would get rid of them is if the HD-DVD player stopped working and could not be repaired. Toshiba has stated it will honor warranty agreements and such with the players. It's very likely a good number of existing HD-DVD customers will have their players and movies working for at least the next several years or even longer.

About the only thing I think you're going to see people unloading for $5 or less on eBay any time soon is lots of standard definition DVDs. As more people buy Blu-ray Disc players, there will be a glut of standard definition DVDs hitting the used DVD market.

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Ben Wales
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So it's Blu-Ray, Just how long before it's replaced with Memory Sticks or solid State Drives?.

I can't see this format lasting that long only time will tell.

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Bobby Henderson
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Flash memory cards might become a practical alternative to Blu-Ray when you can buy a 50GB flash card for just a couple of dollars and have it transmit data at speeds of 54 million bits per second or faster.

I'm guessing that's not going to be happening anytime very soon.

Solid state hard discs are still a very expensive, high end item. And the Internet is still way too slow on average to deliver HD quality video on demand at any practical speeds, much less do it anywhere near real time.

The future looks pretty safe for Blu-ray Disc over the next several years.

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Bill Gabel
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quote: Ben Wales
I can't see this format lasting that long only time will tell.
Remember it's a SONY.

The other HD format.

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