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Mike Schindler
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From: Oak Park, IL, USA
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posted 02-16-2008 08:41 PM

The only time I've ever heard of "motion flow" is in this thread. It's something which is hard to put into words, and something which is hard to visualize without actually seeing it. Today was apparently the first time I saw it, and having read the earlier posts, I figured this was a good place to go for confirmation. Thanks for the confirmation. Sorry for the inconveniece.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 02-16-2008 08:48 PM

It's just a higher framerate, that's all. That's a major reason why things shot on video look different than things shot on film. I shoot 24fps video and people tell me that it doesn't look like camcorder footage, but they don't know why. Nobody notices framerates as framerates except videogamers, I think.

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Mike Heenan
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posted 02-16-2008 08:55 PM

There's a story on AICN now that says Toshiba has been leaking to press that they are going to abandon HD-DVD soon...

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Joe Redifer
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posted 02-16-2008 09:21 PM

Perhaps you missed Bobby's post on the last page.

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Mike Heenan
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posted 02-16-2008 09:53 PM

Any post of his over 3 lines I skip. [Razz]

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Joe Redifer
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posted 02-16-2008 11:02 PM

I skip any post that's not mine.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 02-17-2008 12:36 AM

quote: Mike Schindler
Today I was in Best Buy, and they had a BD of PIRATES playing on a 120Hz Sony TV. If I hadn't known better, I would have thought for sure it was shot on video. It had this weird quality to it that resembles the effect created by video shot without a shutter.

Motion Flow looks good when it is applied on video-sourced material, like college football game, pro basketball or racing. Leave it turned off when watching Blu-ray Discs.

120Hz TVs with motion enhancers, like the Sony Bravia XBR series, do a great job with 1080p/24fps material when motion enhancement is turned off. Each movie frame is flashed 5 times.

I just wish the people setting up such displays in electronics stores would follow that logic instead of turning everything in the demo TV up to "high".

quote: Ron Funderburg
There is a Sony player 300 (forgot the numbers in front of the 300) but about all they really say on the box is up to 1080p.

Go with the 80GB PS3. I don't recommend any of Sony's standalone Blu-ray Disc players at this time (they're all only BD Profile 1.0). For standalones, the Panasonic DMP-BD30 is the best one currently available.

quote: David Stambaugh
I don't think any flat-panel TVs look "film-like" the way CRTs can. Better get used to it I guess.

Try checking out a 120Hz Sony Bravia TV playing a Blu-ray movie with Motion Flow turned off. A few other LCD and plasma models can also show true 24fps. They either have 120Hz refresh rates or refresh rates running in multiples of 24 (72Hz or 96Hz will work).

quote: Mike Schindler
My roommate bought a PS3 which has worked perfectly well. If I had to buy one now, it'd be the PS3, because there are so many of those out there that you know Sony has to stay on top of things when it comes to updates.

The PS3 has another advantage in that just about any movie authored for Blu-ray Disc is tested on a PS3 for compatibility.

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Brad Miller
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posted 02-17-2008 01:38 AM

Does anyone here have a Panasonic DMP-BD30?

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Blaine Young
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posted 02-17-2008 12:46 PM

I thought about getting a DMP-BD30, but after looking at the specs, it seems a step down from the DMP-BD10. It does have the BD Profile 1.1 support, and the HDMI 1.3A for full DTS-HDMA, but the other specs seem ... less.

That and the DMP-BD50 will be out in early summer, so that's likely my next hardware purchase.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 02-17-2008 01:49 PM

I looked at a DMP-BD30 when I was buying my HD gear. It seemed to boot up faster and load discs faster than the other BD players on the shelf. Still, it cost just as much as the 80GB PS3 I ultimately purchased.

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Ron Funderburg
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posted 02-17-2008 02:56 PM

Bobby I didn't even see the 80GB unit in Best when I was looking around!

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Brad Allen
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posted 02-17-2008 03:43 PM

quote: Joe Redifer
I've never heard of the movie "Pirates #121", but there are several possibilities here:

1 - The people who hooked up and ran this demo are retards who have no business whatsoever being alive.

2 - Pirates #121 is a really blocky movie.

3 - Your own optical vision is pixelated.

4 - It was all a dream.

5 - Government conspiracy.

It was an attempt at humor, Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End is what I was refering to.

Probably #3 or #4 was my problem.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 02-17-2008 04:59 PM

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Bobby I didn't even see the 80GB unit in Best when I was looking around!

Circuit City would probably have it in stock. Possibly Ultimate Electronics as well.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 02-17-2008 05:28 PM

The 40GB PS3 is just fine.

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Larry Myers
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posted 02-18-2008 09:33 AM

Does anyone know if there is a master list of all HD DVD's produced so far in both recent and classic features?

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