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Author Topic: Carmike installing 2300 Christie/AIX DLP systems Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-30-2007 09:57 AM                     It looks like Bobby listed every Carmike location and the ones that are DLP equiped have that noted after their listing, reads fine for me. I think everyone just needs to cool down. Micheal, I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate the effort you put in to researching trends in the industry. You provide very interesting and useful information. Bobby, I also enjoy reading your opinions and appreciate the work you put into this list. I've always said that people not directly involved in the film industry-past or present-should be allowed here because their views and opinions are an important consideration. For many of us watching a movie means a Thursday night/Friday morning private screening with possibly a few friends. Having a prespective from actual customers is an important 'reality check'.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-30-2007 12:57 PM                     Yes, I listed ALL Carmike locations in that update, whether they were DLP or not. The locations actually equipped with DLP have the number of DLP equipped screens listed to the right of the location name. It is easy enough to understand the syntax of that list if it is read closely. There's nothing wrong with it. No grain of salt needed. Also, to repeat, all locations were listed this time so readers could see how many of Carmike's locations have DLP systems installed versus others that do not. I thought that would be more interesting to people reading this thread. Finally, this thread is supposed to be about Carmike's digital cinema conversion project. It is NOT about me. Please discuss Carmike's project instead. "No good deed goes unpunished." If the topic cannot get away from flaming me or hair-splitting those lists I'll consider doing everyone a favor and just removing them from my previous posts. Again, the subject is about Carmike. Not me. Leave me out of it.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 02-01-2007 01:26 AM                        April 19th we're supposedly getting good ol' DLP's in. Not sure if they will be starting to install them that day, or if thats the first day they will have movies running on them. Either way I can probably kiss my job goodbye. I'll keep you updated on any more info.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-01-2007 01:18 PM                     Allison, that's likely the date they'll start installing. They'll put in the servers and racks first, start 'going dark' a few days later, and a few days after that be done. You also do not need to worry about your job. While it is likely that as digital installs continue the position of staff leader (I'm assuming that's what you are) will be diminished traditionaly Carmike has merely not replaced people as they left when they cut back on a certain managerial level job classes. Likely you will be working more floor shifts though.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 02-01-2007 03:33 PM                        Well, the thing is, I only work thursdays nights or when film work is needed. No regular booth shifts, let alone CCA or CSH hours. I think we might be keeping a couple of our Simplexes. Either way they said they'd find some way to have me keep working there, even if it is only once a month  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-01-2007 03:44 PM                     Every theatre is keeping some 'tandem' screens. How often the film projectors will get used is anyone's guess. Though not requiring as many people/hours as Thursday film changes the digital systems do still require some weekly 'maintenancce', mostly keeping up with deleting content, redoing showlists with new trailers, etc.  |  IP: Logged Jarryd Beard Expert Film Handler Posts: 229 From: Hellertown, PA Registered: Jul 2004 posted 02-01-2007 06:54 PM                     ... and sorting out keys! Has anybody else noticed the Deluxe keys expiring on Thursdays at 11:59PM? What a pain in the ass if the movie being finaled is runs past that time. Deluxe has to then email the key so the show doesn't just stop at 11:59PM.  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-02-2007 03:01 PM                     Jared, Really? Mine are always early morning like 5:59am Friday. Dustin, when do you start moving content from your Library system to the individual servers for the next release weekend? Are you more careful about doing auditorium moves because of the time to move prints.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 02-03-2007 01:15 AM                     Paul, it depends. Usually our new content arrives on Tuesday, so then we ingest into the LMS during the day and do all of our transfers Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. For proper playback Christie recomends the Doremi not be more than 70% full. Its only happened once but we did have to wait until Thursday night to do a transfer due to lack of drive space. I've also noticed the '11:59 am' expiration on some Deluxe movies, 'Pursuit of Happyness' being a current example. I am pretty sure than once a file begins playing it doesn't matter if a key expires, though I haven't had a chance to test this yet.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 02-03-2007 01:21 AM                    How many movies will these systems let you play in one auditorium in one day. Are you limited to just one movie per screen or can you double or triple a screen. What are the limitations.  |  IP: Logged Tristan Lane Master Film Handler Posts: 444 From: Nampa, Idaho Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-03-2007 04:09 AM                     The only real limitation to how many movies you can play in one auditorium is disk space. The Doremi has a total of 1.2 TB of hard disk space. Some of this space is used for system files, OS, and the interface software. I've seen some theaters where they have had 4-5 features stored on one player, and some that don't keep more than one or two stored at a time. It really depends on the amount of space a feature will occupy on the hard drives. A 2K feature will take up less space than a 4K, the longer the movie the more space, and so on... Also, some hard drive space needs to be left in order to keep the player from having playback issues. A player that is at full capacity with features MAY have skipping video or system crashes.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 02-03-2007 10:11 AM                        quote: Tristan Lane A player that is at full capacity with features MAY have skipping video or system crashes Wow, I'm SO looking forward to these damn things. Why am I picturing them giving us more problems than a standard projector?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-03-2007 12:13 PM                     There's definitely a learning curve involved. But as long as the equipment is used responsibly the technical issues should be kept at a minimum. IMHO, filling a hard drive at 70% of capacity or more is an example of irresponsible use. Doesn't the average 2-hour JPEG2000 movie run in the neighborhood of 200GB-250GB? Just going by that, I wouldn't put more than 2 or 3 movies on a projector's local Doremi machine. Most Carmike locations already upgraded to the Christie/AIX package have the big SAN server linked to all the other projectors, don't they? It would seem that would be the best place to store movies that are several weeks into their run and in need of being doubled up with other shows.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-03-2007 12:55 PM                     quote: Bobby Henderson There's definitely a learning curve involved. In reality any 5 year old could build up a film and get it on screen. Actually all one needs to know is just being able to load in a film/preview files fomr a hot plugable or USB drive(automatic once connected!), assemble them by drag and drop, and installing the code key. Any technical server or projector issues will have to be delt with by appropriate technical folk since just opening the cover on all products places them in an instant non-function mode as required by the DCI security specifications... projectors will do the same thing! Bobby, You need to stop speculating and attend the Dolby Seminar and a location like Showeast to see how they actually opearate... basically all the same! Even the displays from manufacturer to manufacturer are so similar that it makes one wonder if one person wrote all the manufacturers operating sytems.. in reality no it just all translates back to the DCI specs. Watch out... Dolby displayed a new product at Showeast for movie file storage! It can be centrally located in a multiplex and is linked to all the Dolby Servers. quote: Bobby Henderson Most Carmike locations already upgraded to the Christie/AIX package have the big SAN server linked to all the other projectors, don't they? It would seem that would be the best place to store movies that are several weeks into their run and in need of being doubled up with other shows. I have no idea and Carmike is probably not smart eough to do that. But keep in mind that it takes ALOT of time 6 to 8 hours) to move a 2 hour films file over a gigabyte ethernet and this is where Carmikes booth monkeys will fail. Fibre links are installed in many Dolby installation locations but are still just running at Gigabyte speeds. The high end fibre tranceivers as are used by telecommunications companies are still just too large and expensive since they still have to employ actual lasers to get the speed!! Recently Agilent Technology unveiled a new transceiver for telecom that does up to 4gbps data transfer, but still extremely expensive. Mark  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-03-2007 01:27 PM                     Carmike isn't the one who designed the system. Christie and AccessIT did the work. I know the location here in Lawton has the large SAN server networked to all the other projectors. Each projector is linked using a number of gigabit ethernet cables, not just one. I don't know if Christie/AIX is installing that same kind of SAN server in all of the installs they're doing for Carmike. Even with just one gigabit ethernet cable, a 6 to 8 hour estimate on moving 250GB of data would amount to pretty poor performance. Even a garden variety USB 2.0 connection can do better than that. BTW, where does Carmike go to hire their "booth monkeys?" Are they hiring some specially different sub-species of human being that is somehow different from what is being hired by other large movie theater chains?  |  IP: Logged

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