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Author Topic: Carmike installing 2300 Christie/AIX DLP systems Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-15-2007 01:07 AM                     Allison, keys only 'need' to be retrieved by a manager in an emergency. AccessIT/Deluxe/Technicolor are perfectly capable of having Christie send the keys into the LMS or even directly into the servers. This week all my keys (except for the Technicolor holdover keys) were dropped directly into the LMS/servers, no running home necessary. And you do HAVE an internet conection, your just locked out of it. DSL is a requirement for the digital system as it allows Christie to monitors the systems remotely and do a good bit of troubleshooting/maintenance. And your LMS-the 'big tall counsel' you were refering too-should be fully functional before the install crew leaves, there's no reason it shouldn't be and you need the it to be operational to ingest content that comes on DVD's-the occasional trailer and all coke ads.  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-15-2007 09:08 AM                     The keys are only about 14K in size. If you get email at the theatre, then you can get keys delivered.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-15-2007 12:37 PM                     Paul, for security/virus protection reasons Carmike theatres can't recieve attachment through their email system.  |  IP: Logged Allison Parsons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 630 From: East Peoria, IL Registered: Oct 2004 posted 03-15-2007 01:27 PM                        Dustin, So thats part of my question, how/where do you guys download your keys at???? Work or at home.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-15-2007 03:03 PM                     Keys come three ways: 1) They can be sent to an email account. This is not typical practice and is only done when a key is needed on short notice 2) Delivered on USB 'thumb drives'. As Paul said, inital keys-which usually last 2 weeks to a month-come this way. They are normally delivered on Wednesday via FedEx (Deluxe) or DHL (Techniclolor) 3) Downloaded directly into the individual servers, the LMS, or both. After the initial opening keys Deluxe has been dropping the new keys in directly as of late, though not long ago all Deluxe keys came on thumb drives. Technicolor still sends out all keys on thumb drives. AccessIT always downloads the keys directly into the servers-none of their keys ever come on thumb drives. As of last night I had all of my holdover keys except for Terabithia and the initial keys for Dead Silence, both of which are handled by AccessIT. I would be very surprised if the keys weren't there this morning, and if they weren't its the booking departments responsibility to take care of getting them delivered.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-16-2007 12:05 PM                        The Billings, Montana Carmikes have made the switch as of today. 10 DLPs at the Wynnsong, and 7 at the Carmike 7. The "Cine 7" dollar house is still showing film.  |  IP: Logged Justin West Master Film Handler Posts: 271 From: Peoria, IL, USA Registered: Jul 2001 posted 03-16-2007 12:29 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley The "Cine 7" dollar house is still showing film. And from what I hear, Mike, their dollar houses will probably show film until film is no longer...and then, close...permanently.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-16-2007 02:29 PM                        Probably right. They actually did close that Billings dollar house a few years ago, and then couldn't get out of their lease, so they opened it up again.  |  IP: Logged Jarryd Beard Expert Film Handler Posts: 229 From: Hellertown, PA Registered: Jul 2004 posted 03-17-2007 01:31 PM                     If the manager has no personal email address, that could be a problem. I say this only because most installs I've heard of don't activate the LMS right away. If that is the case, email would be needed for AccessIT keys and maybe some Deluxe keys. I would think the manager could arue to be compensated by Carmike for some cheap dial-up internet access account. However, these days, email is almost as necessary as a telephone. Managers must have a personal telephone at their own expense. Maybe the same could be argued for email as well.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-20-2007 10:07 PM                        There was a piece on the local news tonight about Carmike switching to digital. For a change, the city manager was actually interviewed. He said, "We played the movie 'Titanic' for seven months. If you saw 'Titanic' in May, you didn't see it the way James Cameron intended it, because it came out in December, and the film gets scratched, it gets dirty, it gets worn out." Translated: We mangle film! We don't clean our equipment! (To be fair, if all Carmike managers were as caring of their presentation as Dustin here obviously is, the company would get a lot more respect.)  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-20-2007 10:21 PM                     Jarryd, the only reason that Deluxe/Technicolor email keys to the manager as a last minute solution is because it is too much trouble (apparantly) for them to send the key to Christie and have the NOC (Network Operations Center) drop it into the servers directly. They are perfectly capable of doing this and if pushed to they will, they're just lazy.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-20-2007 10:21 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley If you saw 'Titanic' in May, you didn't see it the way James Cameron intended it, because it came out in December, and the film gets scratched, it gets dirty, it gets worn out." Oh how pathetic! I ran my print for just under 6 months and it left in absolute flawless condition, as I screened the last performance. It's really not that hard. Funny all this talk about keys. So far none of my film keys have ever expired or failed to arrive in time.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-20-2007 10:24 PM                     Brad, never lost a show due to a key failing to arrive. It can be a pain chasing after them but its gotten a lot better. Lately its been merely a matter of form to check to make sure they're there. Mike, forgot to thank you for the kind words in my last post. I will say my film presentation before our switch to digital was far from perfect, but given the tools I had to work with I did my best.  |  IP: Logged Jarryd Beard Expert Film Handler Posts: 229 From: Hellertown, PA Registered: Jul 2004 posted 03-20-2007 10:56 PM                     Dustin, I was speaking of a scenario in which the LMS may not be up and running at the time of initial install. Altoona, a city just about an hour away from State College (where my theatre is), is being converted this week. I spoke with the manager at one of the two Altoona theatres. He said his LMS probably won't be ready to go by the time all projectors are running. When we had our projectors installed back in November, it took a good two weeks until the LMS was active. However, as long as the individual Doremis have connectivity, Deluxe and AccessIT could drop them directly unto the servers. Either way, you're right, key management has improved greatly over the past months.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-20-2007 10:59 PM                     The LMS does not need to be working for keys to be dropped into the servers, at least from what I understand. By the time the install crew leaves the DSL line will be connected and the NOC can monitor all the projectors, LMS running or not. So long as that is true the keys can be dropped in remotely.  |  IP: Logged

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