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Richard Fowler
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One of my first products was suppling radio station loggers running at 15/16. They where based on a Sony chassis with custom mechanical and electronic hardware....I was suprised how long they where in service; I was getting parts requests almost 20 years later [Cool]

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John Wilson
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quote: Jack Ondracek
Over time, it was enough to stretch the thinner tape a bit. Made for some wierd sounding song starts after awhile.
That explains The Bee Gees.

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Jack Ondracek
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quote: John Wilson
That explains The Bee Gees.

Nyuck! [Big Grin]

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Monte L Fullmer
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(and how many of us went though the "sticky tape" syndrome) even AMPEX 456 (now Quantegy) backcoated varieties went from great to bad..

"Woo! let's bake a tape for lunch!"

-Monte

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Rick Hunter
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i have just finished digitising about 15 reels of Scotch 207 2 track stereo tape. [1mil NAB rolls] They were recorded between 1968 & 1975. There was no sign of shedding or degredation, I was plesantly surprised with the results and high quality of the playback.
A roll of BASF tape shedded heaps requiring stops every 10 minutes or so for a head clean.....and a roll of Ampex 406 behaved fairly well.
These tapes had been spooled once every five years or so and stored in a corner of the spare room.
...I wonder how the resulting CDs will be in 35 years.

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Tim Reed
Better Projection Pays

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Wow, that's quite a feat, Rick. Most of my old reel tapes from the late 70s and early 80s (with my early airchecks on them) are so brittle they can't be played. [Frown]

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Frank Angel
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We have a room full of archive master recordings all on Scotch 207 mylar, all recorded between early 70s to late 80s. I have yet to take one out and find any deterioration. All were recorded on Ampex and then later Skullys 1/2 trk. Seems to me if they lasted this long, I wouldn't anticipate that all of a sudden they start going south some 30 years later. And this storage room, btw, has no particular climate control at all.

Tim, what brand are your tapes? -- during the day there were LOTS of "off" brands out there. For mastering, we never used anything but Scotch or Ampex high output mylar. We duped on acetate base tapes, again Scotch mostly and I think some of that stuff did develope a slight horizontal curl, but still played well. Have you tried using Film Guard? Or possibly FilmTreat? These seem to relax triacetate base film....perhaps they could help on audio tape as well.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I have quite a bit of BASF (pipe organ stuff" I recorded about 15 years ago that still pays back just fine. The tape seems quite stable to this day.

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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Scotch 207 is great stuff being non-backcoated and lasts forever.. Even Audiotape 1265, even being acetate based, was good stuff as well.

(was that BASF-486 stuff? ..then EMTEC got ahold of BASF)

Dang, funny how audiotape and film needs the same storage arrangements...

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Rick Hunter
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
Scotch 207 is great stuff being non-backcoated
? [Frown]

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Paul Gordon
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For those still looking for good analog sound options

here's a SRA5 with Cat 280 cards

go here SRA5

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Monte L Fullmer
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? A nitrate print?

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Paul Gordon
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Lots of Nitrate prints are sold on ebay...and most are sent regular post to! I'm not sure what people do with them...but they sell.

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James Westbrook
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For 39.95, you too can own an unstable classic...

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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ANOTHER seller on Crack!

26" Reel

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