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Author Topic: More junk for sale on Ebay Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-07-2008 06:25 PM                  I don't know about that, Scott. Martha and me have listened to Josh's show for years, and he prides himself in non-automated, LIVE shows. As a side note: My understanding from yakkin' with him is he is ceasing over-the-air and inet broadcasting of his weekly Friday night show in February this year. That's too bad. Dunno if it temporary or permanent.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-07-2008 06:26 PM                        Looks like nobody bought the DTS disks. DTS shoulda bought them, then gone after the guy for theft. (Oh I forgot, they don't care what happens to the disks after they leave the plant.)  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-08-2008 03:08 AM                     a tape splicer? Looks like a knockoff of a Griswald R2 wet splicer quote: Mike Blakesley DTS shoulda bought them, then gone after the guy for theft ...actually, the discs belong to the studios. Why, in TECH cans, you used to get those cranky notes on "please return your DTS discs."  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 01-08-2008 03:33 AM                        20 years ago, those tape decks would have gone for a whole lot of money. I've never seen that many in one place. 24-hour walkaway. With a 2 or 3 more racks of carousels and some single-play cart decks, that would have been some setup. Ironic though... nowadays, you can do much more with a PC, and it's a whole lot easier to keep going.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-08-2008 07:51 AM                        Personally, I just thought that it was hilarious that the radio-automation guy has something like that in his house. Sadly, he probably won't get much for it, given the fact that he only accepts local pickup and the equipment is probably too heavy to ship. I believe that the tape machines are reproducers only, which reduces their usefulness considerably. Are there any stations that still use a system like this? I would assume that the maintenance and tape cost would far exceed the cost of installing a computer-based system (maybe with a couple of cart machines and a CD player on the side in case the computer had issues).  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 01-08-2008 10:56 AM                        I can't imagine anyone selling this stuff on the new market, Scott. Nobody is syndicating on tape anymore, so a setup like this would be limited to in-house libraries. Practically, running a station with a tape setup like this would be nuts, and could probably be pulled off only on an AM station. Challenges would include variable phasing across all those decks, head and roller cleaning and maintenance, occasional mechanical issues and technology that's no longer supported by the manufacturers, if they still exist. Add to that the slow march of tape degradation and it would only be a matter of time before you just didn't have anything to play on it. It'd look pretty cool in a mall window, though. One PC with XP, a sound card, a decent hard drive and $1,500 worth of software outperforms that whole setup. Plus, every audio cut on the drive can be called up at random... something you can't do even with 16 tape decks.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-08-2008 03:14 PM                        Yeh; that would only work if an audio-nut like me was there. (I used to do phasing off-air using the l-r button on the mod monitor for final tweaking.) Louis  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-08-2008 06:21 PM                     ..and us hard-core analog audiophiles who still love the warm sound of the results of analog tape recordings from tube amplifiers. DANG! that's quite the setup! Hope the lucky one knows what he's got with all of those Otari's  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 01-08-2008 06:39 PM                     I just looked at this stuff, considering the logistics of hauling it away, I think he has probably maxed out the bidding. at the present $.99. The apartment manager is likely requiring its removal because the weight is damaging the floors or the foundation.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-08-2008 07:03 PM                     Would've been quite impressive to have seen it in operation. I liked the way things used to move in radio and television stations...reels, turntables, cart machines, 2 inch tape machines. You been to one lately? God, they're boring. Of course, sadly projection rooms are headed the same way.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 01-08-2008 07:56 PM                        quote: John Wilson You been to one lately? God, they're boring. Of course, sadly projection rooms are headed the same way. True, though it only takes a short trip back in time to notice how we've progressed. Analog buffs aside (and with a hat tip to Louis, who made a living out of getting the best out of those tape decks), analog automation systems were a hodgepodge of inconsistent output. Add stereo cart machines and the carnage was almost complete. Those 2" quad machines were a blast to run... back in the days of film chains, slide carousels and frequent plumbicon registration. Seems crazy that vertical interval editing would be a (very expensive) option. On the other hand, a night with PBS, watching reruns of the Lawrence Welk Show pretty much fulfills anyone's desire to go back there again!! I chatted with that guy who has the automation on Ebay. He had it up to 20 decks, including Go-Kart machines and several single decks. Somehow, he could get 5 days out of it. Not sure how though. Weren't those reels something like 90 minutes at 7.5 ips?  |  IP: Logged James Westbrook Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1133 From: Lubbock, Texas, Usa Registered: Mar 2006 posted 01-09-2008 02:30 AM                     About boring radio... The local Accuweather channel, which is with the local Fox affiliate, shows the local radio talk shows from the studios of KJTV AM 950. The booth appears like an employee break room, instead of conventional microphones, the radio host(s) wear headsets with little microphones attached, and there are 3 flat-screen computer monitors on a table. I thought Imus in The Morning, when it was aired on MSNBC was boring, but the booth that Lou ran was at least more conventional, or "old school" with the racks of cart tapes behind him.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-09-2008 03:38 AM                     quote: Jack Ondracek Weren't those reels something like 90 minutes at 7.5 ips? prob so and doing 2-trk playback. Also, could have been setup as a bunch of slave duplicator units with the corner one as a master.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-09-2008 09:09 AM                     It all depends on the tape speed and thickness. There were .5, 1 and 1.5 mil tapes and speeds as low as 15/16ips. I have no clue what a station would have used in this sort of set up though. I know when I was recording bands and such, I ran 15ips on 1.5mil tape (Scotch 226, 250nWb/m ref). For everyday home use, I tended towards Maxell UDXL (1 mil, 185nWb/m ref). I got nailed with a bad batch of Scotch 227 that went sticky on me rather fast. Scotch reels also tended to have balance issues (physically would shake at high-speeds). Steve  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 01-09-2008 10:07 AM                        quote: Steve Guttag I have no clue what a station would have used in this sort of set up though. Stations tended to stay away from the real thin stuff, Steve. Many playback decks had put a bit of voltage on the feed spindle, and a bit more initial voltage on the takeup for about a half second upon starting. I think our Ampex decks did this. Over time, it was enough to stretch the thinner tape a bit. Made for some wierd sounding song starts after awhile.  |  IP: Logged

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