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Topic: Gas Prices in your area
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David Buckley
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 525
From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 04-14-2005 02:10 AM
Of course, in another 390 days or whatever when this thread wakes up again, we can look back on how these will be the good old days of cheap gasoline
The price of oil and oil derived products behave more or less as dictated by supply and demand, and global rate of oil consumed continues to increase year on year, and the global supply rate is having difficulty keeping up, with no evidence that either of these factors is going to change soon.
Diesel, 26mpg, 1.12NZD/Litre, 3.72USD/Gallon.
Leo would like it here - LPG is available at every forecourt.
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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 04-14-2005 02:43 AM
Does that mean that LPG use is widespread in New Zealand, then?
Thinking a bit more on Stephen's point about the tax concession, I'd guess that mass conversions to LPG are probably unlikely here, and that it will probably remain a niche market. Basically, in order for it to make economic sense to have an LPG kit installed, you need (i) to be driving at least 20k miles per year, compared to a UK average of 11k per vehicle, (ii) those need to be mainly high-speed miles, as a lot of the fuel efficiency of LPG compared to petrol/gasoline is lost in urban stop-start driving, (iii) you need to be planning to keep the converted car for at least 2-3 years, and (iv) there has to be a reason not to go for Diesel, because there isn't much difference in the fuel cost per mile between an efficient Diesel engine and a typical petrol engine running on LPG. In my case it was because I could afford the LPG kit but not a Diesel car which offers the comfort and reliability of what I've got at the moment.
Does NZ have a lot more cars being sold with factory-installed LPG kits (here this isn't standard on any production car, and is only a factory option on a small number of models) rather than retrofitted ones, which account for most of Britain's LPG vehicles?
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David Buckley
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 04-14-2005 09:00 PM
quote: Leo Enticknap Does NZ have a lot more cars being sold with factory-installed LPG kits (here this isn't standard on any production car, and is only a factory option on a small number of models) rather than retrofitted ones, which account for most of Britain's LPG vehicles?
In the half of NZ I live in, new cars here are more rare than in the UK, we mostly buy second hand motors imported by the roro ferryload from Japan. I've not seen any advertising for LPG cars though.
I've also never seen a car filling up with LPG. I see the odd car with an LPG sticker on the road. So my guess is there are very few LPG cars here.
Every forecourt has an LPG pump because every forecourt has the ability to fill LPG gas bottles, which is what every Kiwi has for the BBQ, rather than calor gas as used in the UK.
The other thing that is different here than the UK is fuel tax.
Only petrol is taxed at the pump here, all other fuels are sold without tax. If you have a non-petrol car you must buy "road usage charges" by the 1000KM, so diesel, bio-anything, electric, all get taxed through that method. The advantage is there is only one kind of diesel, and its fairly cheap, so handy for farmers etc, rather than duty paid road diesel and red agricultural diesel as used in the UK.
Of course, we do other things differently here with LPG too, check out http://www.asciimation.co.nz/beer
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