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Frank Angel
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Well, I couldn't stand it any more so tonight I called CBS Network and got to the News Division. I was polite, I was sweet. I explained that Mr. Freeman is not pronouncing Katie's name correctly. "Of course he is Sir; why would you say that?" she asked, almost as if I had spoken a sacrilege. I said, "Well, have you HEARD the CBS Evening News intro?"

"Yes I have, Sir " she said, "And there is nothing wrong with it."

So I explained that Morgan Freeman says, KAR-ic, not COUR-ic. At this she sounded incredulous -- "Of course he doesn't; I listen every night. He says 'Katie COUR-ic;' that's the correct pronounciation."

Now I am incredulous, "You're kidding, right?"

"No I am not," she answers (she's getting a little annoyed). "He says COUR-IC because COUR-ic is the RIGHT pronounciation."

"Oh, so you agree COUR-ic is the way Katie pronounces it, yes?"

"Yes." Now she's moved from a little annoyed to testy; I am matching her and going about ten ticks past testy.

"And you are saying you hear NO difference between the way it's pronounced in the voice-over and the way Katie pronounces it immediately after that?"

"No, there is no difference because we wouldn't have it pronounced wrong in the intro. Morgan Freeman was paid a LOT of money," she says like she's an insider in the know. Think about it, Sir (the word Sir now being said biteing thru her teeth (which I now envision as bucked); the implication of course that I am NOT thinking. "We just wouldn't have Katie Couric's name mispronounced in the intro to the CBS Evening News. "THINK about it," she says again. "There are over a hundred people up there who work on the show; they wouldn't let it be mispronounced night after night."

I started to say maybe there's mass hysteria up there causing everyone not to hear a mistake because that would just be too too embarassing for everyone, but she cut me off with a very stern and officious, "Sir, thank you for your interest in the CBS Evening News. I will relay your comment." Sure you will, I say to myself.

I said, "Fine; tell Katie KAR-ic I wish her the best of luck."

And it's a conversation like THAT which makes me go insane! [Mad]

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John Wilson
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quote: Mike Blakesley
I had a friend who instead of saying "except," would say "butcept." Drove me crazy. So I shot him.
quote: Paul Mayer
We all wanted to take him out back, gave him a sugar cube, and shoot his loud dumb ass.

quote: Randy Stankey
I actually want to shoot them in the head!
I never realized in was in such potentially violent company... [Eek!] [Wink]

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Frank Angel
Well, I couldn't stand it any more
All right, I just watched the new CBS Evening News intro courtesy of the folks at YouTube, and I have to say the true answer is somewhere between the CBS lady's stance and Frank's. Morgan Freeman does not say "KARic," but he doesn't quite pronounce it correctly either -- he says "CURRic" as opposed to "COURic." Now that could be due to the slight accent that Mr. Freeman has.

I will say one thing though....it doesn't sound all that good, considering it's Morgan Freeman, a talented voice. The Cronkite intro sounded much better.

Listen for yourself.

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Ian Parfrey
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How would Sir Lawrence Olivier or Sir John Gielgud pronounce it?

Pretty damn good I'd wager.

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Mark Ogden
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The correct pronunciation is CURR-ic. That's how she says it herself.

The Freeman track was done in the presence of the show's executive producer, and she herself signed off on it. Additionally, she hears it every night thru her foldback monitor as she's going on. Doesn't seem to bother her much.

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Mike Blakesley
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Well, I found a "promo" on youtube where some announcer recites the name a couple of times and he pronounces it pretty much the same as Freeman does.

So, I'm gonna have to side with CBS on this one. Between Freeman's folksy delivery and his slight accent, I think he's closer to correct than not.

The idea that it "doesn't bother" Katie Couric doesn't have much weight though. I mean, if CBS was paying "a lot of money" to a movie star the stature of Morgan Freeman, even someone as important as Katie Couric would have a hard time saying "I don't like it!" She'd be more likely to grin and bear it (remembering that salary she's making), and then gripe about it years from now in a tell-all memoir.

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James. R. Deeter
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I wish I could tell you that Katie fought the good fight, and the Sisters let her be. I wish I could tell you that - but CBS is no fairy-tale world.

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John Wilson
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Knowing what Morgan freeman can sound like, he's really under-achieving with that v/o.

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Mark Ogden
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quote: James. R. Deeter
I wish I could tell you that Katie fought the good fight, and the Sisters let her be. I wish I could tell you that - but CBS is no fairy-tale world.
Um . . . . yeah! [Confused]

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Jeremy Weigel
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Solution: Don't watch CBS evening news intro or better yet the entire program. [Razz]

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Rick Raskin
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I attended to high school with the late Emily Couric and my brother attended with Katie. Morgan Freeman's pronunciation is so close to correct that it is really hair splitting to call it wrong.

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Bobby Henderson
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Sorry to throw in something not related to the Katie Couric pronunciation crisis, but here it goes:

What makes me go insane? Currently? Playstation 3 system "activation."

A couple hours ago I tried to download a movie trailer from the Playstation store, but was denied because my new PS3 could not be activated. I already have another PS3 activated on my account. That system must first be "deactivated" before the new one can be used to download movies, trailers, etc. Here's the catch: I can't deactivate the other PS3 on my account because the damned thing was STOLEN!

If Sony really needs to do this activate/deactivate bullshit why can't they simply go by the MAC address, machine ID, serial number of whatever else could be used to uniquely identify each PS3 system? Furthermore, why isn't Sony doing this sort of thing anyway whenever PS3 systems log into the Playstation network? It might help track down or at least remotely "brick" stolen PS3 systems.

I know Sony can fix this issue on their end. I've already e-mailed their customer service department about this, but I'll probably have to call them on the phone and talk further. I'll send them copies of the receipts for both stolen and new systems. I've already given them the serial numbers via e-mail.

BTW, Sony's PS3 system registration page on their web site doesn't work worth a damn. I don't know if they want the bar code number from the system or it's retail packaging box. It doesn't matter because none of it works. Not the bar code from the back of the PS3 system and nothing from the box either.

The funny thing is I was able to download and install all the games and themes I purchased from the Playstation store. I just can't download any movie trailers or other video related content. It seems the "DRM" stuff on video matters more than it does on games.

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John Wilson
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I bet it was Katie Couric who stole your Playstation.

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Joe Redifer
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Bobby, I don't know what your problem could possibly be, but I can sign into my PS3 account with multiple PS3s without deactivating any of them. I can sign into friends accounts and download what they had previously downloaded for free and even use it on my own account. Why you are getting this error is quite odd. However I never try to download video stuffs on any accounts. You did say that you called Sony and had them do something. Do you think this is contributing to the mess?

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Bobby Henderson
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I've only e-mailed Sony about this issue thus far. No word back from them on it.

All my downloaded games and themes work fine. I just can't download any movie trailers because of this system activation nonsense. There's no way to deactivate the stolen system on my end. There's no option for it under "Account Management>System Activation." There's nothing available on Sony's Playstation web site either.

Basically my account details are fine. The machine hardware is the issue. I can't get the new PS3 slim activated because the old 80GB Motorstorm system is still activated on my account. Sony will have to deactivate that stolen machine on their end.

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