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Topic: The "What makes me go insane!" thread
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Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 962
From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 10-24-2009 10:06 PM
Mark - ![[thumbsup]](graemlins/thumbsup.gif) Some guys just have the one barrel.
My point was that an unsupervised 5 year old allowed to wander around outside could get hurt or killed any number of ways. It's awful that he was attacked by a poorly trained dog, but had it been a rabid skunk or raccoon or whatever may be wild on the streets of Utah, people would be asking the parents where they were. Like with Bobby's original story, the only one I know wasn't at fault here is the dog. The dog's owner and the parents of the child need to come under heavy interrogation.
Bobby - I agree completely about your description of most pit bull owners. They look the same around here. It's not the breed's fault. I personally never buy purebreds - I have adopted all mixed breeds from the Humane Society - but while breeds may be predisposed to certain behaviors, it takes specific nurturing to bring out those behaviors and specific nurturing to keep them suppressed. Any breed can be taught to attack - some are just a lot better at it. Regarding Molly, she can be cured. Dogs very much live in the moment. They remember behaviors during which they were given affection and repeat those behaviors. They become dominant when nobody dominates them. It sounds like Molly was either traumatized then given affection to calm her down, which reinforced her current state of fear, or had nobody to be dominant after her trauma so she became her own leader. Either way, her owner isn't acting as a truly dominant owner and correcting her behavior - don't worry it's very common and I was the same not long ago. I am a HUGE fan of Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan. Yes, it's a cheesy title and he works with prissy celebrities and it seems to good to be true but his philosophy and methods work. I have completely transformed the behavior of my dogs just by following what he suggests and they are happier for it. The biggest problem is that people treat their dogs too much like their damn kids. They are not people and should not be treated as such. The owner needs to be the alpha. I would highly recommend the show to your coworker. It's on Nat-Geo, so many people don't get it, but I cannot overemphasize how well it works. If you don't get Nat-Geo he has books and DVD's too but I've never looked at any of those. He has covered dozens of cases like Molly's where the dog had a tremendous fear of something and through very simple but very persistent methods the dog will be fine. It's all about the owner consistently acting properly and Molly will be a much happier dog once she is no longer afraid.
Some time ago, I started a thread about my beagle being afraid during thunder storms. He would shake, pant and get up in my face, which made it very difficult for me to sleep. I thought petting him and giving affection was the way to go because it would sooth him. I thought that's just the kind of dog he was and there was no fixing it. I even tried playing a CD of thunderstorm sounds to desensitize him. Wrong answers. It turns out it was my wife's fault (she hates when I say that). She also gets frightened during severe storms when I'm at work and the dog at some point picked up on her energy, so he too became frightened. She would then coddle him to calm him (and herself) down, then when I would get home I would do the same, which only further encouraged the behavior. After watching Dog Whisperer (I really don't like the title) I tried simply correcting my beagle when he began displaying the same behavior during the next storm. My wife also corrected him. Literally during the first storm his behavior changed. Once he learned that behavior was not acceptable, he stopped doing it. My wife may still become afraid during severe weather, but she doesn't go to the dog for comfort. The beagle, I am happy to say, has no problems with thunder storms anymore. He just snoozes right on through.
I also agree with you 100% on dog fighting, Bobby. It makes me sick to my stomach. I don't understand how people accept it as cultural.
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