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Topic: The "What makes me go insane!" thread
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Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 962
From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 10-23-2009 04:24 PM
No arguments from me that the dog needed to be controlled and that a ticket should have been issued, but discharging a weapon in a residential area, especially pointed toward the ground with hard surfaces around like streets and sidewalks, is extremely dangerous. Pepper spray would have been a smarter choice. I wonder how many times the officer missed the relatively small target moving 25+ miles per hour and where those bullets ended up flying.
The reason it's sad to me is that regardless of what the exact situation was, the only one I can guarantee was not at fault was the dog and that's who ended up dead. Many Pit Bull owners are terrible, neglectful owners who raise their animals badly, but those dogs are still capable of being rehabilitated. The other side of it is that some people see a Pit Bull and automatically become afraid and react the wrong way because they assume the breed is dangerous. That may have been the case with this officer, or it may have not. Who knows what the dog actually did versus what language was used in the police report. Dogs react to fear and submission and red line dogs like Pit Bulls after sensing fear can become dangerous. But, as with any breed, with proper ownership Pit Bulls are a great breed with no risk of hurting anyone.
I have a good friend that's an officer here and he guessed they have probably pepper sprayed 50 dogs around the city in the last year but he couldn't remember the last time any officer had to shoot one. It's rarely necessary and can cause lots of negative PR within the community.
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Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 962
From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 10-23-2009 09:14 PM
They were originally bred for animal gathering and as a fighting dog, coming from bulldogs, but I think many people buy pit bulls because they think it will make them look cool. They are a powerful breed, but they were originally bred to fight other animals, or other dogs, not people. All dogs respond to dominance and submission and I think too many pit bull owners raise their dogs to be dominant over people - owners of all breeds for that matter. Wrestling around, playing tug-of-war, letting the dog jump up on you or come up on the couch or bed uninvited - all those kinds of things put the dog in a dominant state of mind over people which is not inherent in any breed.
I agree that it does seem pit bulls are disproportionately favored in news stories of attacks on people - I just think it's because pit bull owners are disproportionately idiots that want to look cool instead of be a responsible owner. You never hear of a bulldog attacking a person yet they have similar origins. It's just that breeders have worked to breed out aggression in bulldogs while pit bulls have had this aggression left in them as they are the most commonly used dog for dog fighting in the US. Pit bulls have the capability of being excellent companion and police dogs. It just takes an owner with enough patience and dedication. A number of years ago here a mounted officer shot a pit bull that was attacking his horse. That's more in the dog's natural instincts than attacking a person.
The reason I said pepper spray would have been a smarter choice is both because of the risk of shooting a firearm in a residential area and because it is specifically for close range. The dog cannot hurt you unless it is close and you can see the spray as it comes out, so it's very easy to begin the spray in the direction of the dog as the dog approaches. It is likely to turn tail before it even gets near the spray since their sense of smell is so strong. If it does get closer, you simply direct the spray into the dog's eyes and that will do the trick. Maybe those old men in Randy's neighborhood should carry pepper spray rather than sticks.
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