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Author Topic: Hey you, you suck! (AKA: Outing bad film handlers) Chase Hanson Expert Film Handler Posts: 172 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-08-2004 11:04 PM                     quote: Ever Gonzalez oh my, oh my, oh my! Chase, let me worry about the expense of the tape and use however much is needed to secure prints. We have a role basically at each projector. Funny story...I was working swing on Tuesday. Theres only 3 rolls of tape on the whole East Side. 3 Rolls...11 Projectors  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-09-2004 12:09 AM                     Theatres less than a mile apart and 11 screens on East Side. HA! Now I know where you work!  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-09-2004 02:33 AM                        quote: John Hawkinson Realistically, it's not like a failure to secure the ends results in the print being trashed. I emphatically disagree. I've seen film in cans that had come unwound, wrapped around ther reels, tnagled in unsecured ends from other reels in the container, past the leader, into the picture, crease, scratched etc. And whether it's one reelers or prints in cans, on those occasions when the shipping container comes open, if the ends aren't secured, what gets stuffed back in is a horrible, wadded mess. Tape the ends at least, please, but I agree that the reel bands are the best.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-09-2004 04:11 PM                     quote: Brad Miller I can't tell you how many times I've opened up a can with film in it all mangled around adjacent reels with severe damage done to the beginning of each reel. Neither can I tell you how many time I've seen that as well! But I can tell you that I've seen it enough times to have a name for it: The Two-Minute Warning My shows are 100% attended by an operator. There is ALWAYS somebody sitting in the back row of the balcony, right outside the booth door watching the movie, ready to fix the projector if/when needed. The projectionist is REQUIRED to get out of his/her seat and go check the film every time a cue dot appears on the screen. New (Freshman) projectionists always seem amazed at first how me and the upperclassmen somehow "know" when the reel is going to end even BEFORE the cue dot appears. It doesn't matter whether we've seen the movie before or not. I even had one student accuse me of memorizing the ID frames from when I built the print! After a couple-few weeks on the job they start to notice the same thing the rest of us do... The Two-Minute Warning!  |  IP: Logged David Favel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 764 From: Ashburton, New Zealand Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-09-2004 04:49 PM                     I never thought about it, but the Two Minute Warning is something I do without even thinking about. Shit, i thought it was some ESP.  |  IP: Logged Thomas King Expert Film Handler Posts: 119 From: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-09-2004 05:02 PM                        The two minute whatting?  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-09-2004 07:22 PM                     Two Minute Warning: A tradition in American Football where the official timekeeper gives a warning that there are only two minutes left in the game. It could be sounded by blowing a whistle but it's often thought of as firing a starter's pistol into the air. I'm sure other sports have a Two Minute Warning too, but American Football is my point of reference. Since the heads and tails of a lot of movies that we get around here are so beat up that you can see the damage on the screen and because it's so predictable, when you see the mangled picture the projectionist knows that the reel of film is about to end, thus he gets out of his seat to go check the machine, as per my post above. Newbies in the booth usually haven't been looking at a movie screen with a technical eye long enough to make the connection between the scratched film and the end of the reel. Thus the newbies' amazement at the upperclassmens' appearent sense of E.S.P.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 12-09-2004 07:40 PM                    Out in the audience seats and checking every 15 to 20 minutes is hardly "100% attended by an operator." Your shows are mostly one-off aren't they? You really need a 2nd machine for changeover operation.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-09-2004 09:26 PM                     The last row of seats in the balcony is literally 5 feet from the booth door. The booth is a 12' X 20' room. Sitting inside the booth, monitoring the projector every last second is quite uncomfortable. I've had to do it on some occasions when the film is touchy. (An old, brittle print of Phantom of the Opera) We are expanding our schedule. We're showing most of our movies 2 times plus one pre-screening. I wanted to have a changeover operation but the boss wouldn't go for it. In this place, they'd rather pay for the extra labor. I am trying to get them to buy me a set of reel arms and some more large reels so that I can run at least some things off reels. I'd like to be able to run shorts and things without having to build them into the feature.  |  IP: Logged Thomas King Expert Film Handler Posts: 119 From: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-11-2004 07:58 AM                        Ahh, I see. Next time I work a film that I didn't build (and hence recognise the scenes where it changes) I'll see if I can notice it Likewise, we have a booth that's a second away from the stalls. In my opinion, having the projectionist in the booth for the entire film is not that desirable, because it's harder to notice problems, especially sound-wise.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-11-2004 01:08 PM                     I like putting the students out in the audience where they can see the film the same way the customer sees it. There are usually 4 or 5 work study students on duty for an evening showing. Putting that many people into such a small booth with all that noise and heat would be downright unbearable. From a position in the last row of seats, directly outside the booth door you are a lot closer to the machine than you would be in many of the commercial theaters I have worked in. It's literally 10 paces from the chair to the projector. In almost all the other places you could end up doing a 50 yard dash to get to the projector in an emergency!  |  IP: Logged Ever Gonzalez Film Handler Posts: 29 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-12-2004 06:35 PM                     Ah yes, this is where running up and down the booth stairs every friday morning with film cans comes in handy when you have to dash up the stairs in an emergency when the booth operator did not respond to you over the radio. But waiting for an elevator...thats a different story.  |  IP: Logged Barry Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 203 From: Newington, CT USA Registered: Jul 2002 posted 12-12-2004 10:23 PM                        quote: Ever Gonzalez running up and down the booth stairs every friday morning with film cans Was mine the only theater in the country that the delivery/pickup drivers came up into the booth and dropped off/picked up the prints? Granted we had an elevator to the booth so I can see why some delivery drivers wouldn't want to climb 4 flights of stairs in some booths with 5 new prints at 2-3 cans each AND carry down whatever is off, but is it really so rare that delivery/pickup end/begin in the booth?  |  IP: Logged Ever Gonzalez Film Handler Posts: 29 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-13-2004 12:43 AM                     I have never heard of anybody getting their prints delivered directly to their booth. At the theatre with the stairs we leave them outside the booth door. At the other theatre with the elevator they leave the cans behind the elevator back entrance towards the concession stand.  |  IP: Logged Thomas King Expert Film Handler Posts: 119 From: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Registered: Oct 2004 posted 12-13-2004 05:37 AM                        Ideally our courier drops off prints in our booth. Sometimes, he leaves them outside, where 8,000 students can trip over it. Sometimes he leaves it at the main desk. Sometimes he even delivers it to a cinema on the far side of town.  |  IP: Logged

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