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Author Topic: Hey you, you suck! (AKA: Outing bad film handlers) Part 2 Manny Montes Master Film Handler Posts: 270 From: United States Registered: Feb 2010 posted 02-27-2010 01:44 AM                     The only reason I bring it up is that at the certain company I work for, it is policy that we are REQUIRED to show the rating snipe after the movie, and we are required to show the green band before each trailer, simply trying to keep my job and stay within policy. As for my personal opinion, yes it is worthless, If you have all green bands, then its not even a big deal. We program trailers for each movie, for the audience of that movie, i feel its redundant. As is the fact that we have the rating after the movie is over. Didn't mean to seem a little off my rocker if thats how it seemed, just trying to stay within company policy  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 02-27-2010 02:15 AM                     Somehow I think they might cut you some slack if you point out that the movie came to you that way.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 02-27-2010 11:52 AM                     Not having the green band at the start of each trailer might have been a viable option twenty years ago, but now that the ratings include a description of why a film has been given that specific rating, not having them is irresponsible IMHO.  |  IP: Logged Keith Peticolas Expert Film Handler Posts: 108 From: Eagle River, Alaska, USA Registered: Aug 2001 posted 02-27-2010 01:55 PM                     ^ Have to disagree with that last statement. Most of the trailers now have the generic "appropriate audience" tag on them. We use the first one at the top of the trailer package and clear the rest out. If a little common sense is used when programming trailers, there isn't a problem.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 03-01-2010 12:01 PM                     Edward, a certain major U.S. chain (won't name names to protect not the chain but the jobs of the innocents that work there) cuts of the green bands I think to cram more ads and trailers onto movies. They are up past 15 minutes of trailers, and start the movies now THREE MINUTES late because there are so many video preview ads. Show up to a movie 15 minutes late and you will actually be right on time, just sit in the handicap seats that are empty and unused I envy the law, I think in NY, where the actual MOVIE has to start at the designated show time. All, ads, trailers, and teasers have to be over prior to that stated time. Anyway, cutting off green bands is bad because it exposes trailers to more potential for damage and dust migration, and it doesn't allow the projectionists opportunity to fix focus if need be. God knows with turretted projectors, focus can drift like crazy, and it is really hard to focus on a certain Matt Damon movie that looks like it was shot on all push-processed 16mm and at night.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 03-05-2010 03:41 AM                     It'd when you whack off the green stuff that it makes the trailer pak run a bit shorter, and the public notices this as well since they don't have the patience in having to see five seconds of green stuff five times. But there is an alternative to this whoopla: cut off half of the green stuff per each trailer - whack it down to two seconds of screen time and you win both ways: keeping the green on per each trailer and shortening down the patience level of the audience. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-05-2010 01:24 PM                     It makes the trailer pack feel too rushed, too much like tv commercials one after the other. The green band provides a nice separation and pause, as does a second or two of black in between trailers.  |  IP: Logged Gracia L. Babbidge Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 709 From: Bowdoin, Maine Registered: Aug 2000 posted 03-05-2010 02:13 PM                        Brad - yes! It does help to have those precious few seconds to separate one trailer from the next. It is my opinion that to chop everything to the bare minimum makes for sloppy showmanship.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-05-2010 02:31 PM                        quote: Jonathan Smith I envy the law, I think in NY, where the actual MOVIE has to start at the designated show time. All, ads, trailers, and teasers have to be over prior to that stated time. That's a dumb law. There is too much micromanagement of our lives as it is. I agree with leaving the green bands on. In addition to the points raised above, there is also the fact that the soundtrack often starts during the band.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-05-2010 03:03 PM                     Our advertising states that "The feature starts at 7:00 PM" and that is when it starts. Others advertise the "show" starting at a certain time. The "show" contains advertisements, previews and other 'entertaining material' as well as the featured film attraction. Our last trip to a local screening was advertised to start at 3:00 PM. The actual feature attraction began at 3:45PM after one set of ads and two trailer packs. The presentation was totally in digital projection. No wonder people show up at our theatre 30 minutes into the feature that started on the advertised time.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 03-05-2010 03:03 PM                     Jonathan, if you are talking about AMC, they've been whacking the green bands off their trailers for decades now. And it's a policy I disagree with, personally and professionally, and one of the many things I like about digital cinema is the inability to remove the bands. Seriously, even if you're running six trailers in front of a film, what difference is the thirty extra seconds you gain from removing the bands going to make? Have we become so much of an ADD society that we can't handle five seconds of quiet every few minutes?  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-05-2010 03:32 PM                     > I think in NY, where the actual MOVIE has to start at the designated show time. I am aware of no such law in NY, or anywhere else in the tri-state region. If it exists, could somebody post the statute?  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 03-05-2010 05:25 PM                     I remember a law suit filed over the matter in NYC back in the mid to late 90's, but don't remember the outcome. I believe there was an article in Boxoffice about it.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-06-2010 12:13 AM                        Just recently our Mayor made some statement in passing about a complaint someone made about having to sit thru ads before a movie and said something to the effect that it SHOULD be a law. That's how I recall the discussion about it got started and got heated. Anyways, to my knowledge no law was passed so far in NYC. I agree with Mike -- do we even need a law to make sure we ask the right questions? How hard is to be just even the slightest bit proactive and ask, "Does your feature start at 7:00pm sharp or is that the starting time of your previews? ....you don't know? OK, I'll patronize a theatre that knows when their features start. Good bye." Get a brain; ask a question; and vote with your pocket-book. Simple.  |  IP: Logged Joe Elliott Master Film Handler Posts: 497 From: Port Orange, Fl USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 03-06-2010 12:25 AM                     I didn't find any laws about NY, but I did find this one on one of the stupid law sites: Theater owners are forbidden to start a movie that will end after 2 am in Toronto.  |  IP: Logged

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