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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Joe,

No doubt now Bobby will only get half as much "Graphic Arts" work done every day!

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Ron Funderburg
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but bobby I don't live in the wonderful community of Lawton I live in the slightly less upscale town of Chickasha (well outside of Chickasha) and our wal-mart never has the good stuff! [Smile]

To really get stuff, you know all the fun things HD-DVD, a reymally good selection of good DVD, or even Blu-rey I have to drive all the way to Norman, or OKC or something! To be so close to a big city the stores in this community have far less selection on the shelves than I had way out in the boonies of Guymon!

Hey Bobby do you work at Carmike over in Lawton? I would love to see the Digital projection there sometime!

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Joe Redifer
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If you don't live close to the big stores, then order online. You'll get cheaper prices for the movies in almost every case.

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Ron Funderburg
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Oh I do that from time to time. I just got in a DVD of Ice Station Zebra it says it is in the original scope aspect ratio but if it is truly in the original aspect ratio it would be a 2.76 to 1 format and I seriously doubt that will be that letter boxed in even on a wide screen TV! It was filmed in ultra panavision 70 and man did they look good on the old Cooper supersized screens!

I do live near the City it is only 40 minutes away!

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David Stambaugh
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Supposedly Toys R Us has been selling Blu-Ray movies at 2 for the price of 1 "Buy One Get One Free", maybe still is. In-store only, not available online. There are posts on various home theater forums about this deal. On Disney titles you can apply some kind of $5 Disney rebate coupon and end up paying less for the Blu Ray version than regular DVDs.

EDIT: Holy shit, amazon is selling tons of Blu-Ray titles at very steep discounts, some over 50% off.

Maybe this is old news.

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Mike Heenan
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I watched Cannonball Run at upscaled rez and it looked great, and then I watched parts of Catch me if you can which looked like regular SD dvd.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote:
but bobby I don't live in the wonderful community of Lawton I live in the slightly less upscale town of Chickasha (well outside of Chickasha) and our wal-mart never has the good stuff!
Chickasha is not all that far a drive to Norman and Moore.

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I do live near the City it is only 40 minutes away!
Ron, how fast do you drive? I usually push 80mph on I-44 (75mph speed limit). It takes me about an hour to get from Lawton to OKC's south side. It's another 20-30 minutes to get up to Edmond where some friends live.

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Hey Bobby do you work at Carmike over in Lawton? I would love to see the Digital projection there sometime!
I don't work there, but a good friend of mine has managed the theater since it first opened in 1994. He's done a good job of maintaining the place. It looks better than a number of Carmike locations much younger. It's certainly a LOT better than the Central Mall theater.

In one respect, I'm kind of envious of your location. You live much closer to Moore, home of Warren Theatres new 20 plex (scheduled to open in April). If it's built and operated to the same standards as their theaters in Wichita, it will be the best movie theater in all of Oklahoma. I'm pretty sure it will have THX certification and digital projection on all 20 screens. I plan to watch at least a few of this summer's big movies there.

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Ron Funderburg
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It is only 40 minutes at 75 miles an hour from Chickasha to Crossroads Mall about the same to Moore or Norman all using the Turnpike I could be off 5 minutes or so but not much. I drive 75 on the turnpike. Now when I was young and dumb I would drive as fast as could but a gazillion tickets will break you of that!

I was wondering about the Carmike there because I heard it was much better run than a lot of their locations! Carmike have a tradition of less than stellar care!

Yes Moore looks to be near its open and I would like to go in there and enjoy it! It is a bit pricey for the likes of me but then I am not the intended market! I have high hopes for them and hope that my customers can't afford it but since I don't own the place it isn't my worry!

See if you can arrange me a nice tour of the Carmike there sometimes! [Smile]

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Mike Heenan
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David, just returned from Toys R Us, I think the deal is good till today.

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Joe Redifer
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Now one of the mods over there on Blu-Ray.com is arguing how 35mm film presented in a theater is only equal to about 800 lines or so of vertical resolution.

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Monte L Fullmer
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site

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The big buzz today around CNET offices in New York is the news that Warner Bros. Entertainment has decided to stop making HD DVD discs and will become a Blu-ray-only studio at the end of May. Needless to say, this is a major blow to the HD DVD camp, which earlier this year struck a deal with Paramount to go HD DVD exclusive. You could say this is a tit-for-tat move by Sony and the Blu-ray camp, but it's actually more of a clubbing because Warner has a much bigger library of movies than Paramount.

While rumors of Warner potentially dumping HD DVD have been circulating for the past few months, the timing of the announcement right before the start of the Consumer Electronics Show seems designed to inflict maximum damage to Toshiba's planned HD DVD push at the show. With lower prices on its standalone players and the Paramount deal, Toshiba and HD DVD backers such as Microsoft appeared to be gaining some momentum in the format war. But now the company is faced with a PR nightmare. (An HD DVD event is scheduled for Sunday in Las Vegas; it should be interesting). No one knows at this point what it took for Warner to say sayonara to HD DVD, but you can bet it involved a truckload of something.

Does this spell the end for HD DVD? If I had to give a yes or no answer, I'd have to say yeah, it's probably curtains. The fact is, with the lack of studio support, it's very hard to recommend to readers to buy an HD DVD player, even if it is half the price of a Blu-ray machine. All that said, things have looked bleak for Toshiba and HD DVD before and they've managed to scrap their way back into contention, so you never know. Feel free to weigh in after you read the full press release from Warner, which I've posted below via The Digital Bits:

WARNER BROS. ENTERTAINMENT TO RELEASE ITS HIGH-DEFINITION DVD TITLES EXCLUSIVELY IN THE BLU-RAY DISC FORMAT BEGINNING LATER THIS YEAR

Decision made in response to strong consumer preference for format

(January 4, 2008 - Burbank, CA) - In response to consumer demand, Warner Bros. Entertainment will release its high-definition DVD titles exclusively in the Blu-ray disc format beginning later this year, it was announced today by Barry Meyer, Chairman & CEO, Warner Bros. and Kevin Tsujihara, President, Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group.

"Warner Bros.' move to exclusively release in the Blu-ray disc format is a strategic decision focused on the long term and the most direct way to give consumers what they want," said Meyer. "The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger. We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers, and most importantly, consumers."

Warner Home Video will continue to release its titles in standard DVD format and Blu-ray. After a short window following their standard DVD and Blu-ray releases, all new titles will continue to be released in HD DVD until the end of May 2008.

"Warner Bros. has produced in both high-definition formats in an effort to provide consumer choice, foster mainstream adoption and drive down hardware prices," said Jeff Bewkes, President and Chief Executive Officer, Time Warner Inc., the parent company of Warner Bros. Entertainment. "Today's decision by Warner Bros. to distribute in a single format comes at the right time and is the best decision both for consumers and Time Warner."

"A two-format landscape has led to consumer confusion and indifference toward high definition, which has kept the technology from reaching mass adoption and becoming the important revenue stream that it can be for the industry," said Tsujihara. "Consumers have clearly chosen Blu-ray, and we believe that recognizing this preference is the right step in making this great home entertainment experience accessible to the widest possible audience. Warner Bros. has worked very closely with the Toshiba Corporation in promoting high definition media and we have enormous respect for their efforts. We look forward to working with them on other projects in the future."

What do you think? Is there any hope for HD DVD? Should Toshiba and Microsoft continue fighting or make a deal?



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Joe Redifer
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I think we've known about this for awhile. [Wink]

Microsoft's whole goal is to cause confusion so they can come rushing in and save everyone with their lame digital downloads BS (which they are already providing for the XBox360).

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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No doubt that all of Bobby's posts is what swayed their minds.... [Confused] .

Mark

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Cameron Glendinning
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quote: Joe Redifer
Now one of the mods over there on Blu-Ray.com is arguing how 35mm film presented in a theater is only equal to about 800 lines or so of vertical resolution.


I think he might have a point, If it was a 2k scan of a super 35mm scope release, edited digitally, reprinted back to film. 800 or so lines would be rightish. wouldn't it?
Ofcourse 1.85 would be closer to 1080 in the world of 2k production.

I'm interested in seeing the results from Kodaks new film recorders. They claim that by speeding up the process, they can make more negitives, which will result in the loss of a generation in the printing process. Coming soon to a film screen near you!

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David Stambaugh
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I hate to say it but I bet plenty of "average" release prints today would not exceed 800 vertical lines of resolution.

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