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Bobby Henderson
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I don't know if there's a way how you can set book marks in a Blu-Ray movie with PS3, but it will at least auto-resume from wherever you have to stop the movie (as long as you don't remove the disc).

As to the video/music formats PS3 will support, the best thing to do is download the latest firmware update. It adds support for more file types. After that I think you have to go into PS3's settings to turn on various file types.

I'm now good enough with the Sixaxis controller to use it as a remote. The on-screen buttons are kind of handy for clicking through individual frames. Do this with the scene in Ratatouille where the two rats nearly get cooked by lighting on the rooftop. I was laughing hard!

Having the Bluetooth remote is still pretty handy.

One thing I wish PS3 could add is a frame capture button where you can do frame grabs and save them to the hard disc or a flash card that's currently inserted into the PS3.

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Joe, if you go in to the TV with HDMI and have a digital out on the TV for sound can I go in to the receiver that way or is it better to in to the receiver straight from the player!
My new TV has an optical output jack that will send Dolby Digital or LPCM audio. It will send DD 5.1 from over the air TV broadcasts. However it will only send LPCM stereo if it is playing video from a HDMI connected source. And that doesn't seem too bad because such sources, like a Satellite TV receiver or Blu-Ray player will have their own optical outputs capable of sending out multi-channel surround sound.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Scott,

Did your Ratitoullie have the crawl loader happen after the previews? I'm wondering if this is a feature just on the Sony Blew Ray players or if the PS3 also has this goofyness?

Mark

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Bobby Henderson
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Crawl loader? I saw a brief glimpse (maybe about 1 second) of an animated rat playing with a hula hoop. Saw it briefly when selecting the "total menus" option. Is that what you're talking about?

I've read complaints about some Blu-Ray player models having long load times, but so far I don't have any problems with my PS3. I did download the latest firmware for it, so that could be a factor.

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Mike Heenan
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I posted on the HTF about the delay in some discs loading, and it seems that Disney offers games and interactivity of sorts on some of their discs which requires Java, and hence the cache-ing and subsequent delay of starting discs. Contrast that with WB discs that start up right away pretty much. It doesn't seem to be a Blu Ray or PS3 player problem though, just the way the disc was authored.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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K, Thanks guys. I best check my firmware version.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Bobby Henderson
As to the video/music formats PS3 will support, the best thing to do is download the latest firmware update. It adds support for more file types. After that I think you have to go into PS3's settings to turn on various file types.
No, the only thing you have to turn on or off (to my knowledge) are what the PS3 sends out raw through the digital pipes, like AAC audio, DTS, etc. As far as video files, the PS3 loves MPEG 4 stuff. Encode in H.264 and you'll be safe. It should play all of Apple's trailers, though I have yet to try.

quote: Bobby Henderson
The on-screen buttons are kind of handy for clicking through individual frames.
Ya don't even need the onscreen buttons to do that. Just hit X to pause it, then press L1 or R1 (the buttons on top of the controller, not the triggers) to step back and forth frame by frame.

Having a Bluetooth controller is awesome because that means I can still play games and control BDs while I'm in the neighbor's shitter. You just need to be careful when you set the controller down because it is easy to accidentally press a shoulder button and skip a chapter.

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Bobby Henderson
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I have worries about carrying a Bluetooth PS3 remote or Sixaxis controller into the bathroom. With my luck, I'd trip on something and drop the device into the toilet.

Regarding PS3 firmware, I definitely recommend updating it from whatever it has when shipped from the factory. The original firmware has issues. I noticed problems with standard DVD playback.

For one, I observed a lip-sync issue when playing my DTS DVD version of Saving Private Ryan. The audio was playing a little ahead of the video. The audio was sent optical out to a receiver without HDMI while the PS3 and TV were connected direct with HDMI. With the firmware update that problem was corrected.

I also noticed the PS3 does a significantly better job on upconverting DVDs. With the original firmware the DVD-V content was more pixellated.

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Joe Redifer
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I didn't do anything with my PS3 on the old firmware. I came home, hooked it up, powered it on, went though the setup and then straight to UPDATE SYSTEM. Also, the PS3 can cure cancer. I only had mine cure cancer for one night, but then I turned Folding AT Home off. Has anyone else here cured cancer with their PS3?

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Bobby Henderson
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I would use PS3's System Update feature, but I'm currently having trouble getting my Linksys WRT54GS router to play nice with it and allow it to connect. Unfortunately I'm not finding any clear answers on how to make that happen.

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Joe Redifer
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Is that some wireless nonsense? Ethernet cables own all!

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Bobby Henderson
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I would run a hardwire LAN line to it -if my router wasn't back in my 2nd bedroom hooked up to my old desktop computer. It would seem silly to run 30' of LAN cable with the PS3 having built in WiFi capability. The PS3 is receiving the SSID broadcast at 96% signal strength. The stupid router just won't let it get an IP address and access to the ports it needs.

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Adam Wilbert
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my PS3 is regularly curing cancer. I leave it on all the time. I'm surprised that cancer isn't actually cured by now, what with all the time I've spent working on the problem.

In regard Scott's question about his 7 year old: definitely check out the demo for Super Stardust HD and flOw (not sure if flow has a demo though). SSHD is hands down the best $10 bucks I've ever spent.

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Joe Redifer
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Super Stardust HD is like Robotron meets Asteroids.

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Bobby Henderson
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Super Stardust HD looks pretty cool.

BTW, I finally got my PS3 to connect to the Internet via WiFi after doing a firmware update to my Linksys router.

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Monte L Fullmer
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More buzz on the "BlewRay" topic and it almost can parallel the Windows "Vista" situation:

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With HD DVD looking more and more like it's on the ropes, it would seem like the ideal time to commit to Blu-ray--right? Not so fast. There are at least five reasons to stick with your good old-fashioned DVD player--at least for the next few months. (And, as always, there are some key caveats and insider secrets for those who can't resist pullling the trigger as soon as possible.)

1. Nearly all current Blu-ray players are obsolete: The Blu-ray standard is still evolving. Most models currently available use the original Profile 1.0 standard, while some newer models use Profile 1.1 (which adds the ability to show picture-in-picture commentaries). Later this year, the first Profile 2.0 players--which add the ability to deliver online special features (BD Live)--will become available. Ironically, both of these are designed to bring the Blu-ray standard in line with HD DVD players, which have long been able to deliver these features.

A couple of the most recent Blu-ray players (the combo players from Samsung and LG) can be updated from Profile 1.0 to 1.1 with a downloadable firmware update. But the PlayStation 3 is, supposedly, the only existing Blu-ray player that will be fully upgradeable to Profile 2.0. So if you don't want your Blu-ray player to be obsolete, the PS3 is your only choice until 2.0 models--such as the Panasonic DMP-BD50--hit later this year.

Caveat: Does anybody really watch those PiP-enabled commentaries? Or want updated trailers downloaded from the Web? Beyond the hardcore cinephiles, I think the answer is a big "no." In other words, if you're among the vast majority who only wants to watch the movie, you're not really gaining anything with a 1.1. or 2.0 player. Those older Blu-ray players should play everything else on the disc (the non-playable features are just grayed out on the menu). With the older players hitting the discount racks to make way for newer models, getting a Profile 1.0 player is a nice way to score a Blu-ray player on the cheap ($300 or less).

2. Blu-ray is best on a big-screen TV: Can you see the difference between standard DVD and Blu-ray? Yes--but it may not be as noticeable as you would think. Like all high-definition material, Blu-ray discs look their most-impressive at bigger screen sizes, where DVD can sometimes start to look a bit soft. Put another way: if your TV is 37 inches or smaller, you probably won't be getting a huge advantage from Blu-ray.

Caveat: Eagle-eyed videophiles--or those who sit especially close to their 1080p TVs--may well see a difference. Rule of thumb: if HDTV programming looks noticeably better than DVD playback on your TV, then Blu-ray will be a worthwhile investment.

3. There are still very few movies available on Blu-ray: As of February 5, 2008, there are less than 450 current Blu-ray titles available in North America (not counting discontinued and adult titles). That stacks up well to HD DVD (around 400). But it's a drop in the bucket compared to standard DVD, which has at least 90,000 titles available (including TV shows).

Caveat: Sure, it's small now, but the number of Blu-ray titles is growing slowly but surely. In fact, Blu-ray and HD DVD adoption (combined) has actually outpaced that of the original DVD format, which took three or four years before it really went mainstream.

4. Blu-ray still has growing pains: How many times have you popped a brand new DVD into your player, only to be greeted with a message that you need to update the firmware to view the movie? Probably never, but Blu-ray early adopters have faced this message more than they would like to admit. (To be fair, HD DVD has had its share of disc compatibility issues as well.) To make matters worse, many early Blu-ray players can't update via Ethernet, so you'll need to burn a CD to update the player. If you're reading Crave, burning a disc probably isn't a problem--but there are many less-tech-savvy people that love DVDs, but have no idea what an ISO file is.

5. Prices have nowhere to go but down: Even without competition from HD DVD, Blu-ray prices seem to be on a one-way ticket downward. Older players can be purchases for about $300, so don't be surprised to see Black Friday 2008 specials at $249 or $199. Caveat: See item number 1: the cheaper players are likely to be older models that are effectively "obsolete."

So there you have it: there's absolutely no compelling reason to dive into Blu-ray, at least for the next few months. But as with all of the items above, the conclusion comes with a big caveat of its own: the Sony PlayStation 3. It's the only player that's futureproof, it doubles as a top-notch game machine and network digital media streamer, and it's readily available for $400. Oh--it also happens to be a great Blu-ray player, and it does a fine job of upconverting your standard DVDs to high-definition resolutions. As such, it remains the exception to the rule, and the only Blu-ray player that we can enthusiastically recommend for the time being.



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