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Mike Blakesley
Film God

Posts: 12767
From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-09-2008 10:51 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
6 times the native pixel count. Native 24fps on theatrical films. LPCM Multichannel, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio -at up to 7.1 discrete channels. The difference is VERY impressive

Like I have been saying -- very impressive to an enthusiast like yourself. What about Joe Sixpack?

No point in arguing really...you guys are video enthusiasts and I am not, it's as easy as that. Trouble is there are many tens of millions more who are just like me, that's why the new formats aren't taking off like gangbusters yet.

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Monte L Fullmer
Film God

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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004

posted 02-10-2008 03:00 AM

quote: Mike Blakesley
...you guys are video enthusiasts...

actually, they are more simply called..."vidiots" [Big Grin]

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Chris Slycord
Film God

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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
Registered: Mar 2007

posted 02-10-2008 10:16 AM

I find it ironic that Bobby made sure to mention that DTS-HD MA is a big deal. It's such a big deal to him that he bought a player that can't play it.

[Wink]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-10-2008 11:05 AM

quote: Mike Blakesley
Like I have been saying -- very impressive to an enthusiast like yourself. What about Joe Sixpack?

"Joe Sixpack" is just going to have his 30 watt per channel out of the box Costco/Denon 5.1 system to hook his HD-DVD or Blew Ray too. Ain't goin to last long...

quote: Chris Slycord
I find it ironic that Bobby made sure to mention that DTS-HD MA is a big deal. It's such a big deal to him that he bought a player that can't play it.

Chris, He does this about every third post... In one post he'll tell you he isn't worried about the formats at all nor does he care one bit.. three posts later he's written a passionate book on why Blew Ray is the winner and why DTS-HD MA and goober grapes HAVE TO BE INCLUDED ON ALL PLAYERS. Now I don't personally know of many "Joe Sixpack" 5.1 units out there capable of dealing with the Dynamic range of DTS-HD... it is more or less uncompressed digital audio. Unless you're willing to spend for the likes of Krell or Pass Labs gear it just ain't goin to happen.... Of course while all this has been going on for 57 pages I've been enjoying my HD-DVD and Blew Ray players on my two HD Televisions.. and Krell/Dynaudio playback system. And I'm still just using the analog player outputs [Big Grin]

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Hint: Both HD-DVD and Blew Ray format players have excellent D to A converters in them [thumbsup]

Mark

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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 02-10-2008 12:10 PM

Huh? CDs are uncompressed and digital and play just fine in boomboxes and car radios. Just because they sound better on a good system doesn't mean that they can't be played on crappy speakers.

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Mike Schindler
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Oak Park, IL, USA
Registered: Jun 2002

posted 02-10-2008 12:31 PM

Maybe my ears have been killed by listening to headphones over the years, or maybe my speakers (Athena AS-B1's) just aren't that good, but I have a hard time hearing a difference between the formats.

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but one of the things I love about Blu-ray is how easy it is to import movies not available in your part of the world. Most of the studios are pretty good at making their movies region free, and the whole NTSC/PAL thing is no longer an issue. I have a number of BD's from overseas, including the original animated TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE from the UK, and the director's cut of CASINO ROYALE from Australia.

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Chris Slycord
Film God

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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
Registered: Mar 2007

posted 02-10-2008 12:47 PM

quote: Scott Norwood
Huh? CDs are uncompressed and digital and play just fine in boomboxes and car radios. Just because they sound better on a good system doesn't mean that they can't be played on crappy speakers.

He was referring to the fact that the average person can't tell the difference between various formats could be due to the fact that the average person doesn't spend shit-tons of money on their system and end up with a system that will never accurately show the difference.

Note: I can't verify since I don't have either HD-DVD or Blu-ray and don't have a great sound system (saving $).

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Mike Heenan
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From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 02-10-2008 12:55 PM

Directors cut of Casino Royale? That's the first I've heard of it. What's different? I did hear rumors of a 3 disc edition coming soon (perhaps when the new bond flick is released) so I wonder if that version will be on it.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99

posted 02-10-2008 02:05 PM

quote: Mike Schindler
I have a number of BD's from overseas, including the original animated TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE from the UK

Say what? Is it 16:9? How is it? Where did you get it?

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Mike Schindler
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From: Oak Park, IL, USA
Registered: Jun 2002

posted 02-10-2008 02:35 PM

The director's cut of CASINO ROYALE is about 22 seconds longer than the American version, and about 14 seconds longer than the UK version. Cuts were made in order to get a PG-13.

The American version is missing a some stuff from the bathroom scene at the start of the movie, and some stuff from the fight in the stairwell.

The UK version is missing a some stuff from the torture scene.

As for TRANSFORMERS: THE MOVIE, It is 16:9. I think it's the same transfer that was used for the last DVD release. The colors are a little weird. Hot Rod is kind of purple, and there's been some discussion as to whether or not that's how it was in theaters. Regardless, that last DVD release had the worst compression artifacting I've ever seen in my life, so the BD is a substantial improvement.

The sound? Not so much. The 5.1 remix, which is just terrible, is available in DD and DTS. There's also a 2-channel mix. I haven't listened to that one, but hopefully it's the same as the theatrical mix, which was quite good.

There are no extras at all on the disc.

My girlfriend gave it to me for Christmas (best X-Mas gift ever, by the way), and I think she got it from
Amazon UK. I've also heard it's available at sendit.com

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 02-10-2008 04:54 PM

quote: Chris Slycord
I find it ironic that Bobby made sure to mention that DTS-HD MA is a big deal. It's such a big deal to him that he bought a player that can't play it.

Chris, I mentioned all of the next generation audio formats that are available on Blu-Ray discs, not just DTS-HD MA. The formats I can and cannot play on my current home theater system is irrelevant.

In a few months, I'm going to buy a new AV receiver to replace the one I've had for the last several years. That PS3 will very likely not be the only Blu-Ray capable player I'll ever buy either.

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Chris, He does this about every third post... In one post he'll tell you he isn't worried about the formats at all nor does he care one bit..

And every once in awhile, Mark, you pop in to personally insult me and my posts. You seem to care more about doing that rather than sticking to the subject of this thread. That's pretty sad.

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Michael Barry
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 02-11-2008 10:02 AM

FWIW, I believe there is a firmware update due for the PS3 soon that will allow it to convert the full DTS-MA lossless track to PCM for output via HDMI.

That will be a good firmware update. [Big Grin]

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Bill Gabel
Film God

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From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 02-11-2008 02:29 PM

Well High-Def Digest are reporting that Netflix to go Blu-ray Exclusive .

Citing the decision by 4 of the 6 major studios to publish High-def titles only in the Sony Blu-ray format. Netflix said that it would cease purchasing new HD-DVD stock immediately and that it would phase out existing HD-DVD stock by years end.

Well Netflix just sent out a e-mail stating the above facts about new stock and the conversion to Blu-ray. If you had HD-DVD format selected those titles will revert to SD versions.

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 02-11-2008 06:03 PM

To follow up on the NetFlix announcement, Best Buy issued a press release stating that starting March 1 Best Buy will recommend Blu-Ray as the "consumers choice" of high definition movie disc formats. Blu-Ray movies and Blu-Ray players will be shown in more prominent store displays.

Best Buy still intends to stock HD-DVD movies and some HD-DVD players for the existing HD-DVD customer base. We'll see how long Best Buy maintains that after Warner Bros. stops releasing movies on HD-DVD.

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Brad Allen
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Evansville, IN, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 02-11-2008 07:23 PM

One of the differences between now and when DVD's first come to life is the quality of films. Overall they were considered to be much better back then over most of the crap released today.

It's also the reason why SD DVD sales are down.

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