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Topic: Anyone consuming HD or Blu-ray?
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-24-2008 04:27 PM
Larry,
What your background is certainly impressive...you also seem to quickly gloss over your equipment's lack of capability. Seriously, what harm would it be to run some measured target film and see what it really does.
As to the compact anamorphic...Schneider is certainly my favorite in that form factor but it is by no means anywhere near the best. It is just a 4-element anamorphic that definately does better on shorter focal length lenses than longer ones. It also is about two tiers down from what is current state-of-the-art. The ISCO Blue-Star can tap dance around it by exhibiting greater resolution over the entire picture and also present less chromatic abberations. The net result is a sharper picture from corner to corner. That is, I've put up targets that read 80 l/mm on all targets. In fact, it is rare that I get down to less than 68 l/mm in any target and in those cases, it is always a short throw off-axis with the furthest corner being the weakest...as one would expect. Your prime lens can also be improved upon by more than one manufacturer which would also improve your resolution.
The gate and intermittent design are also rather dated...but again...just measure it all...it can only help make your case, right?
The projection phase of the movie process is the most difficult to get right...you have heat and several optical things (xenon light, reflector, lens(es), screen...etc) plus mechanical obsticles to overcome in projecting the image...ponying up a machine that never could get all of the image off the film (nor could the lenses you use) as an example doesn't show a thing. It reduces your statements to speculation.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-24-2008 06:04 PM
Electronics specialists expect Blu-ray to outpace DVD sales
quote: Susanne Ault - Video Business
MAY 23 | High-end consumer electronics retailers expect set-top Blu-ray players to begin outselling DVD players by August, as a wave of new models eases current supply problems.
Since the format war ended in February, demand for BD players by early adopters has been higher than that for standard DVD at Ultimate Electronics, Crutchfield and Bjorn’s. But there has been too little BD product available for the retailers to realize the format’s potential. The stores believe they should finally have adequate supply by August, as Sony, Samsung, Panasonic, Philips and Pioneer will be launching new BD set-tops.
Samsung’s first picture-in-picture model, the BD-P1500, rolled out at Best Buy this month, and should spread widely at retail soon. Sony’s first BD-Live player, the BDP-S350, and Panasonic’s first BD-Live model, DMP-BD50, will hit stores in July. Pioneer’s BDP-51FD and Elite BDP-05FD, the manufacturer’s first picture-in-picture models, are expected by the July-August frame as well.
Manufacturers, including Panasonic, have said that production hasn’t kept pace with demand because the war ended sooner than expected.
“People have been waiting weeks for Sony players, but it should get better later in the summer,” said Rick Souder, executive VP of merchandise at Crutchfield. “In August, it will be the first time that Blu-ray overtakes [standard DVD] sales for us on a unit basis.”
For some time, revenue on relatively higher-priced BD set-tops has trumped standard DVD at Crutchfield. Currently, the dollar split is 60% Blu-ray and 40% standard.
Besides consumers’ growing confidence in this one high-def format choice, retailers note the February 2009 digital TV transition also is sparking interest in Blu-ray.
“I think HD of any kind is experiencing a lift, as people become more cognizant of the DTV transition,” said Matt Duda, Ultimate Electronics merchandising director of video. “People wonder if they need a new TV, and it’s a great time for retail to capitalize on that. Just getting that footstep in the door is a great way to educate consumers about all high-def products.”
Ultimate Electronics’ BD revenue will surpass that of standard DVD for the first time by August, projects Duda. On a unit basis, BD sales still trail standard DVD at Ultimate.
“There should be a healthy supply by August and [manufacturers] should be caught up in production,” said Duda. “You’re getting five to eight new [BD] players in the market, and you’ll see Blu-ray catching up with standard DVD.”
The retailer is already planning to roll out in-store seminars about the new Panasonic players, as they will represent some of the first set-tops that can access Web content.
With this hardware ramp-up, Bjorn’s will be moving virtually all BD players within its home entertainment area. The upscale San Antonio superstore expects to shift from 70% BD unit sales/30% standard to 90% BD/10% standard by the end of the summer.
Bjorn’s recently carved out a Sony-branded store-within-a-store boutique. But Bjorn’s currently isn’t offering any Sony players. Also troublesome, Bjorn’s owner Bjorn Dybdahl and his team are fond of pumping profits by selling high-def TV and BD hardware together. But the retailer hasn’t been able to offer these bundle deals for much of this year.
“Everyone is trying to assure us the supply is going to get better,” said owner Bjorn Dybdahl. “Right now it’s a hindrance.”
I'm not surprised to see news of this sort. But I think Blu-ray player sales are going to outpace DVD player sales pretty soon for a basic reason this article didn't mention: there is very little profit in selling DVD players.
DVD players are now cheap, loss leader style items. Stores don't make much profit on them. Sales associates aren't going to get any real commission from selling the things either. Ultimately, standard DVD players are just using up shelf space that might be better devoted to newer, more profitable formats like Blu-ray.
With the analog TV broadcast cut-off happening in less than a year and HDTV monitors getting better and better, standard DVD players are not highly desirable things. Everybody has a DVD player already and the only time you need to buy one is if an old player breaks. For most customers in need of a replacement DVD player, it isn't going to be long before they have to buy a Blu-ray player as the replacement.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 05-27-2008 10:51 AM
Still trying to use the tired old "blew ray" gimmick? Nice occasion to do since today (May 27) is the last day Warner Bros. is releasing any movies on HD-DVD.
The prices you're quoting are out of whack with what most Wal-Mart locations everywhere else are charging for BD movies and BD players.
The Magnavox branded Funai BD player costs $298. Best Buy is selling a similar Funai player under another brand for $330.
The "$500 Sony" player mentioned (the S300) actually costs $386. Three other models featured in most Wal-Mart Blu-ray displays are the 40GB Playstation 3, Samsung BD-P1500 and Panasonic DMP-BD30. The PS3 still costs $399. The Panasonic player has been reduced in price from $499 to $449. The new Samsung player costs $350.
Those BD player prices should be identical at all Wal-Mart store locations.
As for the movie discs, I saw quite a range of prices -but none of them any higher than what the store was charging previously before the Blu-ray aisle was installed. Most Disney/Buena Vista discs were running $24.95. Fox is charging the most: $29.99. Some Warner Bros., Lionsgate and Paramount discs were priced at $19.99 or $18.99. The store also had a couple old titles, such as Total Recall for $14.95.
Online stores, such as Amazon.com, usually have Blu-ray discs at prices significantly below what Wal-Mart or other retail stores are charging.
For some extra perspective, most of the new release movies on DVD are costing $18.95 to $22.95 at Wal-Mart. Contrary to popular belief, most new releases on DVD do not debut at $15 or lower. Repackaged or remastered catalog titles are usually the only movies arriving on store shelves at such low price points. Releases where the movie first appears on DVD at a low price point, such as The Matrix or Return of the King, is a pretty rare thing. Normally most movies don't get discounted to the $15 or lower level until they've been on store shelves for at least several months and appearing on pay cable channels.
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