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Jon Miller
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It's unfortunate that even though President Bush has authorized the release of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves, there's no place to refine the oil with fifteen or so Gulf Coast refineries shut down due to the Hurricane Katrina disaster. Alas, no fuel to fill the tankers. [Frown]

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David Stambaugh
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If you know you're gonna pay more for the next load, you raise your price now to cover it. Gas stations have always operated that way. [Frown] [Shrug]

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Jason Black
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I filled up the Accord yesterday morning at Sam's. $2.389.

The Shell behind my office went up .57 since yetserday afternoon alone. Gas is between 2.74 and 3.29 for 87 octane around here.
It's a sad fact that, like others have stated, once the gas prices rise to over 3.00, we'll likely NEVER see the day where you can get gas for under $2.509 again... I'm going to go broke filling my tank for work.. or I'm goig to have to get a fuel allowance increase...

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Robert Burtcher
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On 8/30, gas prices here in Oklahoma City jumped an average of 50c in a matter of a few hours. In the morning, the gasoline prices were right about $2.479 at most stations near my house. By 3pm, every gas station in Edmond was selling regular unleaded (87 octane) at no less than $2.979.

If gas prices don't drop by the end of October, I'm going to have to cancel my road trip to Chicago just before Thanksgiving... [thumbsdown]

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Leo Enticknap
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The radio this morning carried an interview with a Delta Airlines executive, who said that if pipelines linking the Gulf Coast refineries with the north-east aren't back online within 3-5 days, major airports risk running out of fuel supplies. He said that Washington/Dulles, Atlanta and Memphis were at the greatest risk. With the aviation industry in its current state, that's all it needs, I guess.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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On the way to get lunch today I see that fuel is $1.02 a litre. I decide to stop for fuel on the way back so I don't have to cross the street twice.

I drive one block further to Subway. I get a sub and get bitched at for wanting more onions than they're supposed to give (never mind that I only got three toppings and not all 10 ... why can't I have 7x the number of onions -- I really only want 2x or 3x anyway). This takes nearly 15 minutes because they're almost as slow as Tim Hortons.

I drive the one block back to the gas station. Fuel is now $1.25 a litre, nearly a 23% increase. An 80% increase since the beginning of July.

That was one expensive sub (an extra $18.40).

quote: Jon Miller
It's unfortunate that even though President Bush has authorized the release of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves, there's no place to refine the oil with fifteen or so Gulf Coast refineries shut down due to the Hurricane Katrina disaster. Alas, no fuel to fill the tankers.
Even if it could be refined it won't make fuel any less expensive since nobody expects they'll be able to "repay" that oil reserve with less expensive oil in the future.

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Paul Cassidy
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Well Petrol has passed $1.50 here in Auckland , currently $1.53
sorry thats per Litre

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Jennifer Pan
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$2.58 for regular... but that's WAY across town and into the next, next town.

Pretty much everything around my area is around $2.70 for regular.

I heard people were thinking about blowing up gas stations instead of boycotting them.

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Darryl Spicer
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I see a recession on the horizon unless these prices can get under control. If there is going to be a possible shortage of gas then we need to start thinking about designating fill up days. I know it's not the greatest thing and causes long lines at the pump but what can you do. I remember the odd and even days when your last plate number decided when you could fill your tank.

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Tim Reed
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Yep, and violence. I got 170 gallons of diesel in Massachusetts yesterday... the bill was almost $500! I see where unleaded just hit $3.09 in Philly.

As I predicted, they went wild when they broke $2/gal. Now they've quickly broken $3, so they'll probably figure they can get by with $4 next week...

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: David Stambaugh
If you know you're gonna pay more for the next load, you raise your price now to cover it. Gas stations have always operated that way.
Not just gas...all retail operates that way.

Now $2.84 here, up 20 cents from yesterday. "Super" just went over $3, to $3.04. This is an Exxon station.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Yep, back to 1973 when the first embargo hit and prices begin to shoot upwards - from 31 cents to 49 cents/gallon (who heard of UNL then...)

Speed limits started to tumble to a flat 55mph for all of the roads.

Yep, the beginning of the even/odd days of fillups with stations shutting down around 5pm.

...that was a baddie. Luckilly, here in Idaho, we didn't suffer too badly only with the speed limit change.

I bought my first Toyota (a Corolla) in 1976 - had enough of blowing fuel out the tailpipe. Graduated up from 17mpg to 36mpg

...then, the second one hit in 1979 and solidified the demand of the economy car - espeically from Japan and it finally woke up Detroit in making a fuel efficent car.

It looks like we might be going back to that era of 30 yrs ago...

Now, with the damage from Katrina's ire, talk about airports possibly having troubles with receiving fuel. Time to bring back the train services.

..glad I have a small motorbike to run to work on so I can keep the cars off the road.

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Mark J. Marshall
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We're up over $3.00 here in the Philly suburb of Exton.

quote: Darryl Spicer
I remember the odd and even days when your last plate number decided when you could fill your tank.
So do I, but what if your plate ends in a "J" like mine does?

Anyway, time to cut ALL gasoline taxes, state and federal. Shame we didn't set up the drilling and refineries in Anwar. [Frown]

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Tim Reed
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A while back, when all this started, they were saying on the news that gas is still relatively cheap - and compared it to how expensive a gallon of milk was, as well as other items.

I say, when people start using 20 gallons of milk a week (or whatever the item), then we can make that comparision. Right now, we're getting screwed.

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David Buckley
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Short exerpt from CNN website

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush warned Thursday against price-gouging of gasoline in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and said looters should be treated with zero tolerance.

"I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this, whether it be looting, or price-gouging at the gasoline pump or taking advantage of charitable giving, or insurance fraud," Bush said in an interview on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Gasoline sellers have been fast to raise prices in the wake of the storm. Prices have risen above $3 a gallon and in some places are higher because of a sudden drop in oil supplies.

Bush said Americans should conserve more gasoline in response to the crisis and said he expected Saudi Arabia to do "everything they can" to provide more oil. He said eight refineries are down in the Gulf and "it's going to take a while" to get them going again.

"I would hope Americans conserve if given a choice," he said.


Theres the message.

As has already been noted, providing SPR oil isn't going to be much help (ie its 9 parts PR), and Saudi oil, even if they can produce it (which they've already been promising for months but its yet to appear) is sour grade and thus also not terribly useful for getting gas into American cars, due to existing lack of refining capacity for sour crude.

Katrina has done quite some damage to Gulf of Mexico ops, theres a few platforms "missing", most refining is offline, and theres still a load of unknowns such as how much undersea infrastructure is trashed. And there are expected to be impacts on natural gas (and thus electricity), which haven't started to filter through yet.

Bad times with probably more bad times ahead.

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