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David Stambaugh
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From: Eugene, Oregon
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 - posted 03-26-2006 09:42 AM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ian, How come you didn't play WFI at your theater? [Confused]

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

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From: Rockwall TX USA
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 - posted 03-26-2006 11:49 AM      Profile for Aaron Sisemore   Email Aaron Sisemore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Because Ian no longer owns a theatre. (he sold his intrest in Rialto out to Ky several years ago).

Ian, you can be assured that heads will roll for that out of focus show start. That is totally inexcusable.

-Aaron

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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 - posted 03-26-2006 04:08 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Ian Price
The film starts out of focus and I have to go and tell the guy to focus it.
Two interesting points here:

*If Petaluma has no start timers (which they don't), then this is ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE! Go get 'em Aaron.

*If Petaluma had Kinoton projector heads, they would never have to touch the focus...ever. [Razz]

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 03-28-2006 11:53 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just got Swank's print #003 of "Squid and the Whale" from TES.

All but the last two reels were filled to capacity then cut, mid-reel. The interesting thing to note was that there were two layers of yellow tape holding the tails onto the film. This indicates that the print had been played at least two times in this condition and NOBODY bothered to fix it.

Doesn't Technicolor check for that when they QC the prints on return?

Anyway, I ordered the ID sheet from TES and reported the problem. I will instruct my guys to use the ID sheet to ensure that the print goes back together they way it's supposed to upon breaking it.

If it wasn't for that, the print was found to be in fairly good shape except for those reflective cues that you can't peel off without scratching the film up!

The print will have a nice coat of FG on it when it goes back, too! [Smile]

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Adam Heath
Film Handler

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From: Rock Island, IL
Registered: Dec 2004


 - posted 03-31-2006 04:41 PM      Profile for Adam Heath   Email Adam Heath   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
To whomever had Brokeback Mountain Print number 01887 You Suck! Do not write on the film the reel #'s using white out. Reattach the headers and footers jackass.

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 03-31-2006 09:00 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Randy writes, "If it wasn't for that, the print was found to be in fairly good shape except for those reflective cues that you can't peel off without scratching the film up!"

Huh? Do they not come off with VM&P naptha? No trouble taking them off with a bit of 1,1,1-trichloroethane (renovex), not that you can get it any more.

--jhawk

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Ron Curran
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From: Springwood NSW Australia
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 - posted 03-31-2006 09:21 PM      Profile for Ron Curran   Author's Homepage   Email Ron Curran   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have found that a little FilmGuard will remove that sticky gunk that some tape leaves on the print.

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Brandon Willis
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From: Richmond, VA, USA
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 - posted 04-02-2006 02:35 PM      Profile for Brandon Willis   Email Brandon Willis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'd like to shoutout to the previous handler (s) of Brokeback Mountain open caption print #3. For some reason, on random reel heads or tails, you felt it necessary to lop off a length of 5 or 6 frames and then tape them back on. And also, don't forget about those "accordion" splices! Makes our jobs SO much easier...

Rest assured this print will leave my building in better shape that it came in.

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Luci Reeve
Film Handler

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From: Telluride, CO, USA
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 - posted 04-03-2006 06:12 PM      Profile for Luci Reeve   Author's Homepage   Email Luci Reeve   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have worked in a small town single screen theater for over twenty years. I just joined Film-Tech and I now understand the misery of my life.

AQUAMARINE print #549 Arr: Mon, March 20, Show 6:00. Heads and tails didn't match...just random splices on R.2,3 & 4. I had to put it together as show time was coming up and the next day searched for and found the splices, yup, mere feet away.
HEART OF GOLD, print #8051, Arr: Friday, March 24, Show: 8:30 I put it all together and, as I was putting the shipping reels away, noticed a note taped to the inside lid of the first can. Here it is: "ATTENTION Projectionist. due to (impaitent) courier and trainee errors, reel 3 is really reel 1 and vice versa and reels 2 and 3 are mismarked tails up. All reels are Heads left to right. Sorry for the confusion." It circuited from the UA DeVargas Theater in Santa Fe. I have to say that if I had seen the note sooner I would not have been as upset. All heads and tails fade to black.
I don't even mention the mound of masking tape I take off of EVERY single print I receive.
I got 5 bad prints of the 15 we presented the month of March. It seemed like a lot to me.
GOOD NEWS...Most TES prints now come to me with a lot of white tape holding down the heads. They almost always have an empty reel when a can is not full. (When I return an EST print that is not full I pack pieces of cardboard so they won't move.) My print of V FOR VENDETTA, # 18, is in good condition! There was masking tape only on the tails (splice tape on one side of heads) and, for the first time ever, an anti pirate header (first one I've ever seen). Also, for the first time, courtesy tabs. Does anyone else make courtesy tabs? I really like them and don’t see any down side.

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Robert Burtcher
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From: Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
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 - posted 04-03-2006 07:51 PM      Profile for Robert Burtcher   Email Robert Burtcher   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I make courtesy tabs all the time on the tape I use to hold down the heads onto each reel. And just for the heck of it, I also write the reel number and "film-tech.com" on it too.

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Brian Guckian
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Dublin, Ireland
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 - posted 04-03-2006 08:04 PM      Profile for Brian Guckian   Email Brian Guckian   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yep! Standard practice, great for eliminating a surprising number of problems such as tape residue, damaged heads, etc.

Seems trivial, but courtesy tabs make a big difference. [thumbsup]

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 04-04-2006 02:36 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'd fold the end of the sticky tape too, and use the expensive Scotch sticky tape that is claimed to peel off without leaving any residue. Unless you leave it for months and months, it does, too.

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Diane Linton
Film Handler

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From: Palm Bay, FL. USA
Registered: Mar 2006


 - posted 04-06-2006 07:38 AM      Profile for Diane Linton   Email Diane Linton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I started working booth in December, and wanted to learn more that our HP didn't have time to show me and searched the web and found film-tech.

The way I have been trained was very bad I began to find out, and as I learn techniques from here I apply them to my work. Our company is cheap, we have no film cleaning agents or devices. We don't have a real technician, we have the owners brother-in-law who was trained by a technician.

He came in on Monday to fix a bearing(by the belt), he fixed something but he didn't fix the bearing. I am new to this and didn't know why the projector was still makeing that horrible noise, and why did I have to adjust the belt when he told our manager he already did. In between shows I found where the problem was, and was shocked. Shocked that it wasen't fixed, shocked that they wanted us to still run the projector.

My HP fixed it to a degree, but I won't play it unless someone buys for the showing. It's a temp fix that won't last long I'm sure.

I probably deserve to be mentioned in this thread, but I am learning on becomeing better. And I may ask alot of questions to do so, lol.

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Alex Grueneberg
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From: Chicago, IL
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 - posted 04-07-2006 02:25 PM      Profile for Alex Grueneberg   Author's Homepage   Email Alex Grueneberg   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Who ever is doing projection at the AMC River East 21 here in Chicago really needs to improve. Movies are consistently started blurry and out of focus ever time I go there and lately framing has been off, and it drifts during the movie showing negative splices at the top. Oddly enough I saw the union operator walk in and watch the midnight show of "Thank you for Smoking". Even with him watching the movie with the general public he never refocused or fixed the framing. This would drive me nuts with in a couple of seconds.

I only have a few years experience but I'm getting really tired of some of these lazy union ops around Chicago, mainly at AMC. I know there are a lot of screens but it's not that hard to focus and frame correctly. Not to mention a minor shutter adjustment to get ride of ghosting.

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Luci Reeve
Film Handler

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From: Telluride, CO, USA
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 - posted 04-08-2006 03:52 PM      Profile for Luci Reeve   Author's Homepage   Email Luci Reeve   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Print 377 of Failure to Launch was brought to us from the Colorado Springs Carmike 10 yesterday. While I was building it I saw light scratches on both sides of the film (inboard and outboard) but they looked very light as though they would not show up on screen. They did however along with an intermittent scratch in the middle of the frame that did not run from frame line to frame line. Sometimes it was only a short black line, sometimes longer. What causes these scratches? Should I report them?

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