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Stephan Shelley
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 - posted 12-11-2015 08:44 PM      Profile for Stephan Shelley   Email Stephan Shelley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
TWC is making the exhibitors charge a 70mm surcharge. Just like 3D.

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Paul Mayer
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A tip of the hat to Leo. Mighty fine piece of dialog writing you've crafted there. Your guild card will be waiting for you over at the WGA in the morning... [Big Grin]

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Chris Haller
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If IMAX can get away with charging 14 some odd dollars for 2K 3D, I think we can all pay a few extra dollars to get some real 70mm projection!

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Joe Redifer
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I don't agree with having a surcharge for 70mm, but that shit works like there's no tomorrow. It DOESN'T MATTER if the presentation is better or not. Just as long as people *think* they are getting something better by paying more for the ticket price, they will do it. But let's not forget that most people happen to be severely retarded. If you just gave them 70mm and no surcharge they'd wonder how it can be any better if the price is the same.

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Tyler Purcell
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I just wish someone would shut down 3D and the obsession with films being shot and made specifically for 2D being hastily and poorly converted to 3D so every single one of our decent big theaters can charge $20 dollars to show you movie that looks nothing like the original directors intent. Here in Hollywood, there isn't a single screening of Star Wars in 2D in a big theater. They're throwing you into a bread box with crap sound, 2k projector and probably some mice running around in order to see it in 2D. I'll GLADLY pay $20 for a full 15/70 2D IMAX presentation at a big theater. If IMAX just marked 15/70 better, explaining how much more resolution it has over ANY digital projection system, they COULD have kept film alive. However, they've pushed film aside and are replacing everything with either substandard double 2k projectors or laser 4k. Now I'm OK with the laser projection, it looks really good but it's nowhere near 15/70. Plus, good luck seeing it in 2D! For all those poor people who actually wish to see the movie and not be "wow'd" by some visual ride like you'd have at a theme park.

I had really hoped JJ wouldn't have gone the 3D route, but the studio's demand it because they make more money by spending less! It's a win-win!

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Geoff Jones
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If you look at various theater websites, many of them have a lot more 2D showings than 3D, at least here in Denver. That makes me think the demand for 3D might be fading outside of La-La-Land.

On the 17th, Harkins Northfield has 15 2D showtimes (including their largest screen), and only 4 3D showings. The local Alamo Drafthouse has 30 2D showings on the 18th and only 2 3D showings. Several of the Regal theaters in town are alternating between 3D and 2D showings on their R-Pee-X screens.

I'll be seeing it on the big screen at Harkins in 2D.

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Stephan Shelley
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Thing are unraveling by the hour. Check out this article. Some theatres are going to be able to open A Roadshow version DCP on Dec. 25th just like the 70mm.

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/exclusive-the-weinstein-company-making-changes-to-the-hateful-eight-release-123

quote:
Exclusive: The Weinstein Company making changes to The Hateful Eight release

by: Billy Donnelly

Your options to see THE HATEFUL EIGHT are about to open up just in time for the holidays, as The Weinstein Company is in the process of altering their rollout for Quentin Tarantino's latest film.

Confirmed by multiple sources, the studio is set to allow a small number of theaters in select cities to show a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) version of Tarantino's Road Show cut of THE HATEFUL EIGHT as of Christmas Day. As it previously stood, that edit of the film - complete with overture and intermission - was only going to be shown in 70mm, with digital presentations coming on-board in early-January for the wide release, but even that plan has been shifted now with the movie moving up on the calendar from its initial January 8 release date to January 1.

How exactly did we get here?

The Weinstein Company's goal was to have THE HATEFUL EIGHT in 100 theaters for Christmas Day, helping to retrofit a number of venues to be able to project 70mm as Tarantino intended. However, they also insisted that the theaters pick up the cost of the 70mm prints, which is rather expensive. As a result, many prospective locations balked at showing the film, believing that they'd end up in the red once the film's run was done, unable to sell enough tickets in their moderately-sized houses to justify the cost. A number were still game to press on, but TWC's target was effectively cut in half, with 70mm showings being cut down to about 50 theaters.

In the hopes of boosting those numbers up once again and making the film a bit more accessible to those who would like to see the Road Show cut, the DCP option surfaced. The number of locations that will be showing the film in that way is still being finalized, but what I'm hearing is that it'll be around 50 in order to hit that 100 theater total they'd wanted originally.

On January 1, the multiplex version will kick in, offering audiences the option to see a slightly different cut of the film, with no overture nor intermission in tow, thus shortening the exclusive window the first wave of theatergoers will have all to themselves.

This obviously wasn't the plan for Quentin Tarantino or The Weinstein Company, but once those 70mm venues didn't come close to matching what they had hoped for, a new strategy needed to be employed... and this is it. Although this has yet to be confirmed, we expect an announcement of this change very soon.

THE HATEFUL EIGHT (Road Show edition) arrives in select theaters on December 25 - 70mm and DCP before its wide multiplex release on January 1.

Edited by Admin to include text from article for future archival use.

[ 12-12-2015, 04:30 AM: Message edited by: Brad Miller ]

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Mike Schulz
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quote: Joe Redifer
If you just gave them 70mm and no surcharge they'd wonder how it can be any better if the price is the same.
This is the sad truth.

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Tyler Purcell
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Wow Geoff you're lucky! I mean, its playing in 2D here as well (probably even more theaters then 3D), but not in the 6 good theaters, only in the smaller ones. A lot of that is due to IMAX and laser projectors being installed all over the place.

The CInerama Dome which is my favorite theater here in LA, is currently getting laser projectors installed just for Star Wars. It's a curved screen and I hope they can taylor the new projectors to the screen shape like they do with film. It will make the experience a bit more enjoyable!

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Daniel Schulz
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quote: Tyler Purcell
I mean, its playing in 2D here as well (probably even more theaters then 3D), but not in the 6 good theaters, only in the smaller ones.
It's playing in 2D at the Village in Westwood, which is one of the best theaters in Los Angeles (hell, one of the best theaters *anywhere*).

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John Hughes
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Premiere at the Odeon Leicester Sq in London went really well. Tarantino asked the audience to give the Projectionist a round of applause for the perfect presentation. Many people had mixed feelings about the film but all agreed they couldn't remember the last time they had seen a film that looked so clear, bright and bursting with rich colours and contrast.

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Ben Wales
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quote: John Hughes
Tarantino asked the audience to give the Projectionist a round of applause for the perfect presentation
Now that is a rare sight these days in the Digital world where the Director invites the Audience to congratulate the Projectionist [Smile]

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Monte L Fullmer
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A big [thumbsup] for a long forgotten trade, which Tarentino recognizes very well.

Also, give a [thumbsup] to our servicemen where ever they are for a job well done.

- Monte

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Simon Wyss
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Crazy, when will somebody discover that a movie shot in Academy aspect ratio and with a monotrack looks and sounds well projected high and played over speakers in an acoustic wall?

24' by 32', spherical lenses, good story

And least lab problems!

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Thomas Hauerslev
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At the same time as some of you continue to sit and complain like old bitter men, who always knows better (and everyone are fed up listening to), the French premiered "H8" Friday night for 2500 spectators.

http://www.in70mm.com/news/2015/grand_rex/index.htm

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