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Topic: HATEFUL EIGHT 70mm - all discussion
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 12-10-2015 03:02 PM
quote: Mike Babb
Brad, if I had rings I would happily use them, I have recommended them to my customers in the past. I am not arguing against, I am only saying not using them doesn't equate to a desire for the project to fail.
Mike, why do you keep using the very troubling phrase desire to fail? Nobody desires for this to fail. We all WANT it to succeed. I really think you are misreading the intentions of the posts here, so let me paint a more humorous version of how we feel in general. Picture yourself in a horror movie. You are in the woods, it's dark and you are half naked about to have sex...and all of a sudden some creepy music starts playing out of nowhere. Guess what, you are about to die. That's sort of the feeling we are getting on this when we are discussing some of the decisions made with this release. We are afraid of what happens when that music starts playing, and it is currently playing, and the chance of 70mm dying is high. Make sense?
quote: Louis Bornwasser
They were careful to state that training and operator qualification was beyond the scope of their contract.
That right there is proof enough BLSI isn't dumb. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
quote: Jim Cassedy
The 35mm soundhead has been stripped of all rollers
and two 70mm "bypass" rollers are mounted on the front.
If you open the soundhead door, the hinge will smash into the
lower roller. Since I have a tendency, out of years of habit, to
open that door to check threading before starting a show, or
sometimes even during a show just to make sure things are
running smoothly, I'm thinking it would be a good idea to
duct-tape the door closed to avoid damaging the roller &/film.
Hey Jim, I've got a question. Is there something preventing you from threading straight through the empty soundhead? Everything in there is gone, so the only obstruction I can think of would be where the 35mm sprocket used to be, but that may be fixable by adjusting the fore/aft of the failsafe mount.
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Sean Weitzel
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From: Vacaville, CA (1790 miles west of Rockwall)
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 12-10-2015 04:53 PM
quote: Rick Raskin
Seems to me it would have been simpler to remove the optical head.
Some Century heads are driven by the soundhead itself.
Oh hey look at this interesting turn of events:
The Weinstein Company making changes to The Hateful Eight release
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Your options to see THE HATEFUL EIGHT are about to open up just in time for the holidays, as The Weinstein Company is in the process of altering their rollout for Quentin Tarantino's latest film.
Confirmed by multiple sources, the studio is set to allow a small number of theaters in select cities to show a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) version of Tarantino's Road Show cut of THE HATEFUL EIGHT as of Christmas Day. As it previously stood, that edit of the film - complete with overture and intermission - was only going to be shown in 70mm, with digital presentations coming on-board in early-January for the wide release, but even that plan has been shifted now with the movie moving up on the calendar from its initial January 8 release date to January 1.
How exactly did we get here?
The Weinstein Company's goal was to have THE HATEFUL EIGHT in 100 theaters for Christmas Day, helping to retrofit a number of venues to be able to project 70mm as Tarantino intended. However, they also insisted that the theaters pick up the cost of the 70mm prints, which is rather expensive. As a result, many prospective locations balked at showing the film, believing that they'd end up in the red once the film's run was done, unable to sell enough tickets in their moderately-sized houses to justify the cost. A number were still game to press on, but TWC's target was effectively cut in half, with 70mm showings being cut down to about 50 theaters.
In the hopes of boosting those numbers up once again and making the film a bit more accessible to those who would like to see the Road Show cut, the DCP option surfaced. The number of locations that will be showing the film in that way is still being finalized, but what I'm hearing is that it'll be around 50 in order to hit that 100 theater total they'd wanted originally.
On January 1, the multiplex version will kick in, offering audiences the option to see a slightly different cut of the film, with no overture nor intermission in tow, thus shortening the exclusive window the first wave of theatergoers will have all to themselves.
This obviously wasn't the plan for Quentin Tarantino or The Weinstein Company, but once those 70mm venues didn't come close to matching what they had hoped for, a new strategy needed to be employed... and this is it. Although this has yet to be confirmed, we expect an announcement of this change very soon.
THE HATEFUL EIGHT (Road Show edition) arrives in select theaters on December 25 - 70mm and DCP before its wide multiplex release on January 1.
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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posted 12-10-2015 11:48 PM
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Confirmed by multiple sources, the studio is set to allow a small number of theaters in select cities to show a DCP (Digital Cinema Package) version of Tarantino's Road Show cut of THE HATEFUL EIGHT as of Christmas Day. As it previously stood, that edit of the film - complete with overture and intermission - was only going to be shown in 70mm, with digital presentations coming on-board in early-January for the wide release, but even that plan has been shifted now with the movie moving up on the calendar from its initial January 8 release date to January 1.
Oh boy, it IS Interstellar all over again.
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= admission of failure.
Sadly I have to agree. This is really bad news and won't be forgotten the next time a high profile director tries to do a film-based release. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
I know this has been said many times before and I'm not a studio executive, so obviously I am missing something crucial here to the master plan...but WHY can the release not simply be delayed until this space movie has done it's thing and take over the biggest auditorium with 70mm? That would give more time to work out any kinks in the master plan, more time to install, more time to recruit, and more time to give this thing the best chance at success possible. Does something horrible happen if the ticket money arrives 3 weeks later?
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Doesn't this mean that the picture that the audience sees will actually be SMALLER than if it had been filmed in standard scope or flat resolution since it still has to fit onto the regular movie screen? If so, then what was the point? I don't see the advantage of a short narrow picture when it could fill the screen if it was a standard resolution.
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