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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Am I to assume the overture plays with a "Overture" title card projected on the screen with the 70mm showing of HAREFUL 8? During all the road shiws I have seen in the past, the music plays when the curtain is closed and lights dimmed and nothing is projected on the screen. When the majority of these movies were released on video, titles cards that say OVERTURE, ENTR'ACT and EXIT MUSIC are used and I totally dislike it because that was not the way the movie was shown in theatres during a road show.

-Claude

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Phil Ranucci
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Overture title card plays throughout.Intermission card ~13 seconds. 2nd half starts with music then Chapter card fades up.
Oh yes, QT uses chapter cards.
Also,I was told today the heat glass is cracked. Highlight II console, 3K lamp.

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Brad Miller
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So a little less than an hour ago the theater I am running 70mm at started playing the theatrical version DCP on another (slightly smaller) screen. It was a Christie projector on a silver screen.

Yuk!!! It did not look good at all after watching the 70mm for the last couple of weeks. In comparing the Christie screens to the Sony screens, it will look even worse when it goes onto one of those lifeless Sony screens that look like someone turned the contrast control to 0, the brightness up to 100 and the color setting down halfway.

This isn't me being a lover of film, because I've seen some damn good looking digital, but ANYONE would notice the difference here. It really is no comparison.

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Sally Strasser
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I have to agree with Brad...checked the DCP out briefly on another screen on intermission...it kinda looks blue and faded. Not sure what this location does in setting up their Sony's-- color shooting etc. Glad I'm on the film screen!! Dazzled by the detail in the image.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Good ol' LCoS System, wins out every time in the Rotten Tomatoes Category.

Bet one saw a good hot spot on that silver screen.

With this 70mm run, are beam spreaders being used, or is the lamp focus sufficient to fill the aperture?

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John Wilson
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We're using a beam spreader.

I wonder if it's a conscious effort to make the DCP look 'bad'...

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Brian D. Whitish
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I just saw the 70mm presentation at Seattles Pacific Place. counting ceiling tiles about 44 feet wide. Common height screen. Black bar at bottom of image. Had a noticeable flicker. Was not as bad on the indoors scenes. Credits had a trailing ghost. Small scratches in middle of image about a 1/4th of the way over on both sides. Very light scratches. Sound was good. Focus was soft but okay on top 2/3rds of the screen, out of focus on bottom third. Actually better than I thought it would be. Would have loved to see this at Cinerama on the deep curve Cinerama screen. I will probably see it at Bellevues Lincoln Square to compare.

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Mike Heenan
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Brian, were your scratches tiny and near the bottom of the frame? I saw it last night at Harkins 101 in Scottsdale and the print was still spectacular, except for these tiny row of scratches near the center of the frame leading towards the right, just slight above the bottom edge of the frame. I counted about 8 or 9 total. Very small and not distracting at all, audience probably didn't care/notice.

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Lyle Romer
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quote: Tyler Purcell
Does anyone know why dolby didn't develop a 70mm dolby digital system?
They did, sort of. They patented a 70mm version of Dolby Digital. I forget if it was going to be printed inside or outside the perfs but basically they were going to stretch the data blocks 1.25 times.

All it would need is a 70mm reader with the right size rollers and the camera positioned in the right place. The processor would "see" the dots exactly the same as it did for 35mm due to the increased film speed.

Reliability may have been an issue but, in well run booths, the 35mm version was pretty reliable. I guess the theory would be that 70mm would be cared for more and make dropouts very unlikely.

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Lyle Romer
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I found the Dolby Patent listed above. Interesting that they didn't mention CDS as prior art.

It is titled "Compatible digital soundtracks for 70 mm motion picture film" and is patent no. 6,011,610 if you want to find it on the uspto.gov site.

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Stephan Shelley
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Grand Lake is planning on running the 70mm for the foreseeable future. If we can get the lens that works it will change auditoriums at some point. 3 of the 4 screens can show 70mm.

Have to point out that West Side Story has graphics during the overture.

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Sean Weitzel
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I just want to post kudos to the team involved with the BLSI install at the Tower in Sacramento, CA. Sam Chavez, Chaz Philips, Matias Bombal and others. I saw the film today at 11 am. Tack sharp corner to corner and a flawless print. Dare I say Brad Miller standard flawless as in not a mark or hair on it throughout. Audio was perfect as well. Masking was right on. I was handed a program with a smile upon entry to the cinema. If *anything* I thought the light was a tiny bit uneven. Left side I saw some strobing on the outdoor scenes and the right side was a tiny tiny bit dim but no strobe. Again Bravo and thanks for film done right.

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Sam D. Chavez
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Thanks Sean.

I was just there working on the left side light issue after you were. The artifact you describe Is caused by light leaking around the right edge of the shutter. This is a long time issue with JJ as it was designed to work with the narrower cone of light from an arc lamp. The faster reflectors in xenon lamphouses enable this and I think the stretch on the lens makes it even more noticeable. it looks like travel ghost with something added.

Kudos to the projection crew as the print is still perfect. Kabuki is still pristine as well as is the Grand Lake. Not so a couple of others that will go unmentioned.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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It is very unusual to see a display ad in my local newspaper anymore except on Friday's in the movie section of their weekend entertainment tabloid. One was however featured in this morning's Honolulu Star Advertiser for HATEFUL 8 measuring about two column inch by 6 inch. It was probably due to the fact that today is New Years eve. The ad was very nice and it even says "See it In 70mm at Select theaters" I am planning to see it next Tuesday at Regal's PearL Highland and I hope the presentation from the DCP will be very nice because the original source was from an Ultra Panavision 65mm negative.

-Claude

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Victor Liorentas
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Sorry Claude...but the DCP will pale compared to a well projected 70mm Ultra Panavision screening.

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