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Evans A Criswell
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
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 - posted 01-13-2005 03:52 PM      Profile for Evans A Criswell   Author's Homepage   Email Evans A Criswell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Actually, my LiveJournal is one place I just say what I think and am "out", although nearly every post making it obvious that I like guys is secure, so you have to to friend me to be able to read those posts.

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System Notices
Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi

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 - posted 07-30-2006 11:47 AM      Profile for System Notices         Edit/Delete Post 

It has been 562 days since the last post.


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William Phillips
Expert Film Handler

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 - posted 07-30-2006 11:47 AM      Profile for William Phillips   Author's Homepage   Email William Phillips   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bored, bumping this one any new outs??

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 07-31-2006 06:17 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How about the entire Pakistani cricket team, for 222 last Saturday? [Big Grin]

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 07-31-2006 12:44 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I don't come over to this forum as much as the others, so I just discovered this thread because it was bumped.

I really think there is enough prejudice to go around. I have always be very sexually active at an early age (how old are you in the 7th grade?) and have been attracted to both sexes from very early on. It didn't take me long to discover that gays can be as bigoted as straights. I experimented all thru college with both girls and guys. Emotionally I am much more drawn to women; sex with guys is just easier because guys are ALWAYS horny. Thing is, I was not accepted by EITHER group, straight or gay. If gays find the ostrasism by the straight world painful, try being maligned by BOTH gays and straights.

Very early on, I felt the wrath of gays who insisted that I was diluding myself in my relationships with women and when I said I was in love with a woman, I was told that my feelings were false; I was even sneared and shuned by a number of gays. As far as the gay guys were concerned, they said that I was "pretending to be straight" and encouraged me to "face the truth about being gay." While in the straight world, well...let me put it this way -- you can sleep with 300 women, but bed down with one guy and to the straight world, you are as queer as a three dollar bill, period. With that you get to experience all the nasty bigotry from that side of the isle as well. Most gays don't believe that a person can be bisexual.

Thing is, I don't even consider myself bisexual (omni-sexual, perhaps), as that kind of implies that a person is 50% attracted to each sex. I feel that when I am attracted to a woman, it's as passionate as any other straight guy and 100% heterosexual. I haven't been with a guy in decades because I have been in long-term, happy and sexually fulfilling relationships with women, but still, that doesn't mean I can't have a full-blown, 100% attraction to a hot guy.

As for being OUT....my close circle of friends, mostly straight, know that I have had both types of relationships. At work, I don't volunteer that information to co-workers who are just that, not friends, but people I work with. They can guess all they want, but what's it anyone's business? If I am asked outright, and I rarely am because I don't "look" gay (whatever that truly stupid concept is) my answer is, "Why is my sexuality important to you? I don't think a person's sexual proclivity is anyone's business, especially in the workplace, unless of course you want to go to bed with me -- do you want to?" That always shuts them up.

All I know is, what I am attracted to is as much who I am as is the color of my hair and eyes and skin. And when I hear straight people talking about "choice" all I can say is, why are you so proud of being straight? You didn't to anything to get that way....you didn't work at it or earn it. You woke up one morning at the onset of puberty and looked at Mary Jane with the big tits and discovered, wow, you had a woody. You didn't say, "I wonder if I should choose to get a woody for her, or gee, there's Justin the quarterback with the bulging jockstrap, perhaps I'll get a woody looking at him. The woody chooses for you, and it never lies. You can tell yourself anything you want....WISH to be attracted to women, but why you like her or him has nothing to do with free will. Hell, even if you are totally straight you can't WILL yourself to be attracted to a particular girl. You are hot for this girl, but another does nothing for you. You can't control it at all. Even couples in love can suddenly realize that they are just no longer attracted sexually to each other, which wouldn't be such a crisis if as a society we weren't so damn totally hung up on sexuality, making it the measurement and the proof that we are "in love."

Heterosexual, homosexual, bi, omni, even asexual, the thing that counts most is that we love well.

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Rachel Craven
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 - posted 07-31-2006 01:09 PM      Profile for Rachel Craven   Email Rachel Craven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Good post Frank, I enjoyed reading that very much... [thumbsup]

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 07-31-2006 07:11 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Frank Angel
The woody chooses for you, and it never lies.
Quote of the day! Sounds like it should be in a "sig" or something.

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Eric Hooper
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 - posted 08-01-2006 11:56 AM      Profile for Eric Hooper   Email Eric Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frank brings up good points. There really are no hard and fast, black and white rules in life. And once the rest of the world gets over all the labeling stuff, we'll all be much better off.

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Rachel Craven
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 - posted 08-01-2006 06:12 PM      Profile for Rachel Craven   Email Rachel Craven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Frank Angel
The woody chooses for you, and it never lies.
I like that, it is now my new MySpace title! Haha, I'm like a little kid...

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Donna Siegwart
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 - posted 08-02-2006 12:45 AM      Profile for Donna Siegwart   Author's Homepage   Email Donna Siegwart   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have been openly Bisexual at my theatre for over 4 years, and it made people feel odd when I first told them, but once they got to know me, they realized I was not the type of person to push my sexuality on people.

Sadly in HS I had issues with A LOT of teens, as in my school I was one of the only OUT teens, with an very public lesbian relationship. Teens can be cruel.

Anywho my coworkers stay out of my love life now a days. Some have noticed my pride keychain for my door keys, and I have gotten compliments from it.

We had to deal with a homophobia issue recently, it was a rare thing, but it ended well at least.

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 08-02-2006 06:02 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
It never ceases to amaze me that SOME gay people MUST make it a point to blab that they are gay to anyone and everyone... BOTTOM LINE: WTF CARES? Get a life! That is sooooo "High School". One's "worth" doesn't revolve around who they fuck!

Most people, out of Jr High and High School could give a rat's ass as to who one sleeps with.

I'm not sure about the theory that the "wood decides" one's sexuality. Most guys get a wood for many, even non-sexual, reasons. I think it's more of which sex one mentally covets and desires.

Oh, and BTW Madamn Moderator, Hmmmm... just curious as to how your "wood" works for you? Strap-on dildo? [evil] [Razz]

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Jeremy Fuentes
Mmmm, Dr. Pepper!

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 - posted 08-02-2006 06:07 PM      Profile for Jeremy Fuentes   Email Jeremy Fuentes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You seem so angry Phil. Marry me. Be the yin to my yang. [Razz]

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 08-02-2006 06:23 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Angry? I'm not... and I don't get where you think I am you jerk! (hahhahahah Just kidding bud!) [Smile]

Seriously, I'm one that believes one's private life is just that and there is NO NEED to blab it to all within earshot.

My post was not meant to be adversarial, but just ***MY*** opinion.

Bottom line: FU Jeremy! HA! [Razz] [Wink]

(OBTW: I DO NOT marry anyone without trying out the merchandise... let's fuck) [beer] [Razz] [thumbsup]

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Gordon McLeod
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Phil isn't the way "rent don't buy the depreciation is less" [Smile]

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Darryl Spicer
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 - posted 08-02-2006 09:32 PM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Donna Siegwart
I have been openly Bisexual at my theatre for over 4 years, and it made people feel odd when I first told them, but once they got to know me, they realized I was not the type of person to push my sexuality on people.

Just out of curiosity, were most of the people that felt odd female? I ask this because it seems when a guy finds out a girl is bisexual they get the threesome flash or hey girl on girl going through their minds. When they find out a guy is gay they get the oooooooh gross going through their minds and the girls are like hey want to go to a club because they feel safe with them thing going through their minds.

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