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John Wilson
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People who arrange a meeting for a certain time...then don't show.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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Coke produces a special version of regular Coke during the Jewish Passover made with cane sugar. It is only available for a short time, and the word PASSOVER is in small black computer printed letters on the bottles. I've only seen it in the 2-liter bottles, not the cans, but they may make that also. It's available in most of the local grocery stores.

Mexican grocery stores around here also have cane sugar Coke.

And there is a definite taste difference.

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Karl Borowski
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Haha, what is that called Mark, CoKosher, Coca-Kosher? :-)

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Lyle Romer
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quote: Mike Blakesley
The result: Nobody had 100% correct answers. The best anybody had, including me, was 50%. Some people had 100% wrong answers. To this day I don't know WHY that is, because there is still a big difference to me when I drink one or the other...but maybe it's more psychological than anything.
Did the people taking the test cleanse the palate well between each cup? If not, the flavors probably got muddled together. There is definitely a difference between Pepsi and Coke. Coke is definitely better than Pepsi to me although Mountain Dew is better than Mello Yellow or Vault.

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Karl Borowski
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I concur with Lyle. Though I can't say I am totally immune to marketing (including an excellent impromptu high school speach made by one of my classmates in a creative writing class in favor of Coke), I can definitely tell a difference between Coca- and Pepsi-Cola, whereas I cannot tell the difference as well between Dr. Pepper and Mr. Pibb, Sprite and Sierra Mist.

It is no secret that Pepsi was actually studying the amount of cinnamon the Coca Cola Company bought between their original formula and switching to the disasterous "New Coke."

Rumor has it that Pepsi modified their formula, based on the cinnamon discrepancies, between new and old Coke formulae, after "New Coke" tanked.

So I would say Coke clearly has something different and original, something that Pepsi Cola has desperately tried to copy.

Now, I am not knocking Pepsi. They have Mountain Dew, which is also something original and different, but there is definitely somethign about Coke that Pepsi and generic colas can't match.

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Chris Slycord
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Rumor and innuendo for the lose.

If Pepsi were always trying to copy Coke (and never ever the other way around) then the "New Coke" never would've existed. Why did they make "New Coke"? Because Pepsi was beating them left-and-right on blind taste tests and so the Coke people tested out using the formula for Diet Coke with replacing the fake stuff with HFCS, as Diet Coke (and still is) really popular and had a similar taste style to Pepsi. And incidentally, people doing blind taste tests liked New Coke better. But once they introduce the product, people start freaking out.

And I've always wanted to get a can/bottle of New Coke just to see what the hoopla was about. I seriously don't remember what it tasted like. Might never have even had it.

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Randy Stankey
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I'll bet you a nickel that, they are selling "New Coke" right now. They just don't advertise it.

When the backlash from the original "New Coke" campaign hit, they withdrew it, for sure. But I bet they gradually changed the formula back and are selling "New Coke" or something very close to it right now but it's just sold in "Regular" cans and bottles.

Shit like this is what annoys the fuck out of me!

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Lyle Romer
Did the people taking the test cleanse the palate well between each cup?
I don't remember for sure, but maybe not...that could have affected the results. Maybe we'll have to try it again this year when we all get together.

Brad - you might think defective genes, but we're talking 3 different families here....me, my wife's nephews, and my sister in law were the testers. We're even differnt religions! [Smile]

I have a book around somewhere about the New Coke fiasco. It was called "The Real Coke - The Real Story." Very interesting stuff.

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Karl Borowski
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Randy & Chris: And I bet you believe that a cruise missile destroyed the pentagon too [Roll Eyes]

That Coke phased out sugar in favor of high fructose corn syrup is irrelevant. The rest of the formula, however, is relevant.

Marketing and hype I'm not totally immune from, but Coke tastes essentially the same to me as it did before "new coke".

Perhaps they gradually phased in HFCS, but I think "New Coke" was more than just that. . .

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Karl Borowski
Randy & Chris: And I bet you believe that a cruise missile destroyed the pentagon too
Childish response at best. Moronic response at worst.

This is a classic strawman argument. Instead of responding to the statement at hand you change what the other person supports to something you'll find easier to discredit.

quote: Karl Borowski
Perhaps they gradually phased in HFCS, but I think "New Coke" was more than just that. . .
Where did I say that "New Coke" was just adding HFCS to old Coke? If you bothered reading what I said, I clearly noted that what they did was (instead of working on a new formula) was take Diet Coke's formula and change the nutrasweet and replace it w/ HFCS. They were definitely using HFCS before they introduced New Coke.

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Karl Borowski
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You're right. Never mind then. I'm a moron.

Oh, BTW, if you read the response immediately after yours, you'll see where the brunt of my objections lie.

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Chris Slycord
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I did read it, which is why I responded like I did (since it's not fair to lump one person with another like you did). But whatever. Apology accepted. [Smile]

It's also interesting to hear people refer to New Coke as if it instantly failed, when actually lots of people seemed to like it a lot, only with a vocal minority complaining to have the old recipe return. But I really don't at all remember what it tasted like.

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Joe Redifer
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Wow, people will go to war for their Coke and Pepsi. My position: It's goddamn soda. Who gives a flying fuck?

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Chris Slycord
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I like Pepsi better than Coke but Diet Coke >>>>>>> Diet Pepsi.

Diet Pepsi is just plain vile.

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Louis Bornwasser
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The cane sugar Coke/Pepsi is available at any grocery that is near a Jewish neighborhood before/during the Jewish holidays. Typically it is NOT near the rest of the drinks. Locally known as Kosher Coke, it is much smoother and foams up like real Coke used to.

Europe and the UK probably still use only can Coke. Pepsi was always corn syrup and so now is Coke. Louis

edit: whoops, didn't see the last page!

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