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Dustin Mitchell
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 - posted 06-24-2004 04:53 AM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I imagine they could supervise the booth staff. A large plex might have 3-5 projectionists, some being part time and some being full time. A booth manager would be the person responsible for making their schedule, assigning tasks, training, etc.

Course that's the ideal version, in the real world they just don't want to call him a projectionist' and likely this 'booth manager' doesn't really have any supervisory powers.

To clarify my earlier point I wasn't just talking about people who are managers and obviously don't know how to manage but people who are being called managers to get around certain laws when in fact they are not according to the letter of the law. In Wisconsin if you don't directly supervise three or more people then those labor laws that exempt managers do indeed apply to you. As the old saying goes, sticking feathers up one's but does not make them a chicken.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Well, Peter, they are good on destroying prints neglecting equipment and making horrible presentations... [Big Grin]

Dustin, unfortunately I have not seen too many booth managers that fit your criteria.....Most of them I saw would screw up a steel ball with a rubber hammer. [Eek!]

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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Chicago Boss Gets Heavy Sentence for Obstruction

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STAGE EMPLOYEES (IATSE)

Chicago Boss Gets Heavy Sentence for Obstruction

U.S. Dist. Judge Suzanne B. Conlon (N.D. IL, Reagan) slapped a 6-1/2 yr. prison sentence on Albin Brenkus on May 3. Brenkus was convicted on March 5 for his part in a multi-state campaign of violence, vandalism and arson in retaliation against three major theater companies in the midst of collective bargaining disputes. Brenkus was the secy.-treasurer of Local 110 of the Intl. Alliance of Theatrical & Stage Employees (IATSE) when he orchestrated the planting of smoke bombs in AMC, Cinemark and Loews theatres in 10 states. The multi-state vandalism was apparently aimed at forcing the theatres' corporate owners into using Local 110 projectionists in their Chicago theatres.



Jurors apparently believed the assertion of Brenkus' lawyer that he did not know that the bombs' combination of chlorine and brake fluid could burst into flames if left unattended. Brenkus was acquitted of arson and racketeering charges, but was convicted obstructing justice by instructing a Local 110 member to lie to FBI agents about the beating of a Chi.-area theater mgr.



Brenkus himself was not charged in that beating, but Judge Conlon clearly took it and the arsons into account for her sentencing of Brenkus -- an unusually stiff sentence for obstruction of justice. "The whole [beating] plot was Mr. Brenkus' idea," Conlon said as she rejected a lawyer's claim that Brenkus didn't know that a baseball bat would be used in the beating. Brenkus must also pay a $100,000 fine. [Chicago Daily Herald, 5/4/04]


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Jeffry L. Johnson
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Letters
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You missed the real controversy surrounding the showing of Fahrenheit 9/11 in Cleveland. How will the people who have been waiting for months to see this film deal with the fact that the Cedar-Lee has locked out its union projectionists and hired lesser-paid part-timers in their place? I won't cross the picket line, and I doubt that Michael Moore himself would if he were in town. We'll have to hope it's showing at some other theater, even another chain that gave up union contracts long ago, or wait for the DVD.

Jonathan Forman has done his best to ruin the Cleveland filmgoers' experience for years, holding films that have shown months before in other cities for the Festival, only to give them a short run after the Festival closes, showing good films in the most ridiculously small “theaters,” etc. Now he has to wring a few more dollars out of the business from his employees. Not with my money, he won't. Sorry, Michael, unless the film is showing somewhere else in town or I take a road trip, the big opening night numbers will be less one or two.

William Kennedy
Newbury



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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Jeffery,
Its obvious that you are strictly an article poster very much akin to another Film-Techer fellow from New York was when we had the political threads running.... I generally find people that only post articles very boring. But wouldn't it be wonderful if you just once fed us your feelings and opinions on an issue or subject....... instead of some reporters..... [Eek!]

Mark

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William Hooper
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I always enjoy Jeffry's posts. They're dense with fact & attribution; the meatiest, most useful posts.

He one of my heroes! You leave Jeffry alone! Jeffry, you go right on!

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Phil Hill
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I think Jeffry's posts are fine. There is NO need to present some personal view about an informational post.

>>> Phil

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Thats all nice and fine, its ok to disagree. But its also nice to read a persons opinion as well and I just have yet to see any opinion come out of him about any subject he has posted, perhaps I missed one somewhere, it is possible.

Imagine if Phil stopped all his constructive posting and wisecracks and just posted articles all the time....... [Frown]
F-T wouldn't be the same..... F-T is for the exchange of ideas, views and to provide help to other film industry folks when we are able to...at least thats as I've seen it over the years. I think articles are appropriate but that they are backed by the posters opinion and or possible ideas regarding it. That makes the member all the more valualable weather you agree with him or not.....

Mark

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Joshua Waaland
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Well here is my two cents worth:

I worked in a split booth with two women projectionists from the Akron, Ohio local IATSE. They were very nice and were really attentative to details. They were some of the best projectionists I have worked with. It was a good experience with the local IATSE.

However I used to work at UPS and to make a long story short I don't like the Teamsters. I don't know how the IATSE operates, but when I hear about people that are getting hurt and property getting damaged at picket lines, like has happened so many times with the Teamsters, that is total crap. A mob has no mind. I think it only reveals how unprofessional and uneducated they are.

Now if a union operates as it should and betters the quality of life for it's members, promotes knowledge growth and knowledge base, and benefits the industry and it's members, then I am all for it. But so far as for me and my experience with the Teamsters, I think that it's powers are abused and it perpetuates laziness.

[ 12-08-2005, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: Joshua Waaland ]

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Martin Brooks
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While I agree with your comments about the negative aspects of they way certain unions operate, let's look at what has happened to american workers now that only a small percentage of all american workers belong to a union: we have a preponderance of minimum wage jobs with no benefits. If this trend continues, we will become very much like a third-world country: we'll have an elite group of doctors, lawyers, CEOs and wall-street types and we'll have a very large group of people who can't afford to spit.

A perfect example of what happens when you don't have a union are the abuses that Wal-Mart has inflicted upon its workers: minimum wage, being forced to work off the clock, most jobs part-time so they don't have to pay benefits and the immediate firing of anyone who challenges the company line.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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Letters from the issue of Wednesday, July 14, 2004
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Get Real
Teens should tear tickets for less: I was amazed to read your article on the recent picketing by union members outside the Cedar Lee Theater ["Rat Bastards," First Punch, June 23]. Although I realize that some unions have done a great deal for the American worker, doesn't everyone agree that they may be a little out of touch?

Cleveland Cinemas was able to cut the average wage from $15 an hour down to between $7 and $10 an hour. That seems a fair wage for someone to make for tearing ticket stubs in half or making popcorn. These jobs are typically held by high school students. I can't help but wonder how much of my $8.50 ticket goes to the extreme wages some of these cinemas have to pay. Let's get real here.

Michael Yopko
Columbus

Sorry to disappoint you, Mark, but I'm uncomfortable doing that. I don't do it on Usenet or other email lists on which I occasionally participate (CML, MEL-L, AMIA-L).

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Jeremy Fuentes
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quote: Jeffry L. Johnson
can't help but wonder how much of my $8.50 ticket goes to the extreme wages some of these cinemas have to pay. Let's get real here.
This person should get real, and do some research. They would find out that very little of that $8.50 ticket goes to the theater itself. It pays for the movie, that many of us work hard to put on screen for them, so they can have some form of entertainment.

quote: Jeffry L. Johnson
$7 and $10 an hour. That seems a fair wage for someone to make for tearing ticket stubs in half or making popcorn.

I barely make that much, and I am an assistant manager and run the booth. And these people have the nerve to complain.

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Scott Norwood
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Wait. Did they have _one_ employee (the projectionist) who was getting $15/hour or was _every_ employee (ushers, ticket takers, etc.) getting $15/hour? [Confused]

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Dan Lyons
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I'm guessing the cranky ass who wrote that letter has no clue what he's talking about. I'm sure it was just the proj. getting that rate.

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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I believe that, at lockout, the projectionist's hourly wage was $14.25 for a 20-25 hour week. Floor and concession staff usually made minimum wage or slightly above.

Prior to that imposed wage, the projection hourly wage was $14.00 for a 40-45 hour week. A $0.25/hour increase for half the hours.

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