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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 12-23-2015 06:09 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So why aren't they advertising the 70mm on TV? All the H8tefull 8 ads say December 31. Will people even know about the December 25th dates? How?

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Matt Russell
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quote: Joe Redifer
Will people even know about the December 25th dates
I don't know about other theaters, but Century 12 Evanston/Cinéarts 6 is already sold out of the December 24th 7 PM 70mm screening, so I think most people who have searched the movie are aware of the roadshow dates.

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Scott Norwood
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There is a TV spot for the 70mm release:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa9h2FyNt60

I have no idea where it is playing, though. Presumably, it would only be shown in markets that are getting 70mm prints.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Philip Wifflief
We received our print with inboard vertical base scratches on several of the reels...
quote: Simon Wyss
Cinch marks from transport?
Given "several of the reels," I assume that Philip's print was shipped in changeover configuration, i.e. 5 reels in transit boxes, not the ready assembled platter roll.

If so, the problem can only be a film handling error by whoever had the print last, as far as I can see: either an accident during projection itself, or uneven or too loose winding. If the damage is on the odd or even numbered reels, this would strongly suggest a problem with one of the projectors on a changeover installation.

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Gordon McLeod
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It could also be processor scratching

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Bobby Henderson
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So is anyone planning to see a Thursday night 70mm screening of The Hateful Eight?

I'm considering trying to talk my girlfriend into driving up to OKC to see the first show tonight at the Quail Springs Mall theater. It looks like tickets are still available for it as well as the late show. The weather is going to be pretty crappy this weekend; pouring down rain Saturday and maybe snowing on Sunday. Plus, I don't know how many passes through the projector that 70mm print will get before it is toast. I'm just praying they don't shred it and if they do that it doesn't happen any time soon.

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Leo Enticknap
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I ruled processor scratching out when writing that reply above, because all the prints are being checked and assembled by the team in Valencia before being shipped to theaters. In the process of transferring the prints from the cores and boxes on which I understand they're leaving FotoKem, to the reels and cases on which they're being shipped onwards to theaters, surely the technician doing this would have noticed if they arrived "virgin" from the lab already scratched?

The conclusion I jumped to is that because this appears to be a changeover-configured print, it was one that was used in one or more of the pre-release preview shows, and that's where the accident happened.

In any case, I imagine that Chapin's team will want to establish exactly where and how that scratching happened, for obvious reasons.

quote: Bil Brandenstein
suppose if I want to see pretty pictures in 70mm, I'm going to need to head down to the Imax theater at California Science Center, because now I'm certain that H8ful is a movie I have no interest in seeing.
I'm kinda ambivalent about Tarantino. He's not a minor talent, but neither is he a Welles or a Bergman. A co-worker watched this thing at one of our preview screenings, and concluded that the story and acting were solid achievements, but what Tarantino really needed was a Thalberg-style producer breathing down his neck and pruning the show down to 90 minutes or so. Hitchcock tried a similar style and technological gimmick with Rope, but knew his audience's limit and kept it down to five reels.

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Paul H. Rayton
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Anent Leo's post above, that same co-worker expressed it to me thusly: "It's 'Ben-Hur' long, but doesn't have a chariot race". That kind of sums it up. Negative reviews will likely be coming in.

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Joe Redifer
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Bobby, just do it! First show or nothing!

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Aaron Garman
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Well today is the day. Even if it has been a strange and not perfect road, 70mm has returned for a short time. By all accounts from friends who have had a chance to see it, it's pretty darn good. I'll be seeing it Saturday at the AMC Northpark!

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Victor Liorentas
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I'll be seeing it at the Varsity in Toronto...earlier in the day I will witness Star Wars at Scotiabank Imax (pronounced liemax)with lasers. If I can...I'd like to check out The Music Box(Chicago) presentation of The Hateful Eight. They put up a 40 foot screen in front of the proscenium with masking! They also upgraded to 7.1.
Most impressive!

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Buck Wilson
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It's FANTASTIC! I loved it.

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Philip Wittlief
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We received the print preassembled. I have no way of knowing if it was run before we got it but it could have been scratched while it was being assembled. The condition of the print is holding steady at least and no more damage has shown from our running. Too bad we don't have a way to get our hands on a 70mm media cleaner.

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Buck Wilson
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Reddit 70mm results thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/3y7a2b/post_hateful_eight_70mm_show_reports_here/

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Richard May
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Wow. Just quickly reading through all those responses. Seems like there were many issues. That sucks but expected I think.

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